problems upgrading my video card

[djanggo]

Hi.. I want to upgrade my video card from nvidia geforce g210 to any other card that fit my system price ranging from 100usd to 200usd...As u can see my specs below,i only need to run 1 display monitor w/ recommended specs of 1600x900.Want to play latest games in mid settings but w/ better fps,as my vcard using now has only 20fps playing w/ nba2k10 and i need at least 35 fps..

Now my worry is this:
1-If this Vcard fit in the back case ports(single port of DVI)?If cant,is this thing can be adjusted as i have only 1 PCI-e 2.0 x16 slot?
2-The physical size of power supply,I have only 300w stock..If I change it to 500w,can it still be fitted on the stock psu case?
3 -The size of Vcard,my stock only measure 2.37 in height and 6.6 in leight..
Im thinking of this geforce gt240 and the 5770..but my question is if this thing fit on my pc? if not then please,suggest as im not an experience user in terms of urgrading,in fact this is the first time i upgrade a pc..thanks

 

[Lordbob75]

Sounds like you are better off getting a new computer...

~Lordbob

 

[djanggo]

Sounds like you are better off getting a new computer...

~Lordbob

wow hehe..can u tell me why?my pc is new,like 6 months ago..

 

[Lordbob75]

Well, if you wanted to upgrade a single component like that, you will need to consider if it fits, if you have the slots, etc. If you don't know what you are doing, you are better off buying it prebuilt...

~Lordbob

EDIT: Your card should be fine anyways...

 

[djanggo]

Well, if you wanted to upgrade a single component like that, you will need to consider if it fits, if you have the slots, etc. If you don't know what you are doing, you are better off buying it prebuilt...

~Lordbob

EDIT: Your card should be fine anyways...

yeah but there is an extra space for size of a Vcard...but the slot is only 1..the back panel is wht im worried about...yeah the g210 is fine i can play smooth in a game like mass effect 2(In mid graphic setting)left 4 dead 2(low setting)and in nba 2k10(low setting)..i want to upgrade it coz i want to play it in more realistic and to turn on the effect at least in mid...

 

[mickbiggins]

I would just buy an ATI HD4850, it would do you fine for most games. No need for a new computer. I had the Diamond one. Worked like a charm for me until I got my EVGA 275 GTX. Link below.

Newegg.ca - HIS H485FM1GH Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

 

[Lordbob75]

You are going to need more space for a bigger card...

~Lordbob

 

[djanggo]

I would just buy an ATI HD4850, it would do you fine for most games. No need for a new computer. I had the Diamond one. Worked like a charm for me until I got my EVGA 275 GTX. Link below.

Newegg.ca - HIS H485FM1GH Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

thank you..my problem is if this card fit on my back panel(single slot)..w/c is wht im worried about,if not fit can i replace the back panel?lol...sorry just a newbie about upgrading..

 

[Fumz]

Open up your case and look at the video card. Now look below the video card. What do you see? If you see an empty PCI slot, then you have enough room.

Your only worry then is if you buy a bigger card you're going to need more than a 300 watt PSU.

 

[HMonk]

These kinds of questions are so often asked in a vacuum that they are really difficult to answer. Components not only interact with each other, one component may be dependent on another in order to function as designed. Owing to the fact that there are so many options, it takes a bit of research to sort things out.

One example: the dimensions of the PSU are, generally, within a range such that they are able to be placed in a variety of cases. However, some cases mount the PSU on top, some on the bottom. Will the location be a factor for you?

Gfx cards must be matched to your system in general and to your monitor specifically. Does your gfx card connect to the PSU; depending on the card it may occupy the space of two or three expansion slots - will that be a problem; what is the native resolution of your monitor and does the card support it; how much power does the card consume; does the card and monitor have the same type of ports; does the card enable you to access all of the features of the monitor; will the additional heat generated by the card be able to be dissipated by your case fans?

Now that you are contemplating upgrading your machine, the fact of your questions, in conjunction with Lordbob's response, to wit: "if you don't know what you are doing," speaks volumes by implication.

It sounds like you are beginning a new phase in your computer experience: creating what you want/need (v. buying that box off the shelf). I think now is the time for research whose goal is understanding what each component does and how it interacts or is dependent on the other components in the system.

After your research you may decide that, as a matter of fact, you really don't want the 5770. Why? It's an "entry-level" DX11 card that ATi appears to have rushed to market for the sole purpose of beating NVIDIA with a DX11 card. Yes, it uses less power, produces less heat, is smaller but is about 20% slower than the 4890 (which costs about $60 more, only $20 more than your $200 limit, and is much higher rated). By the way, will you benefit by DX11; is DX11 a must have? It's but one factor to consider.

I think you are on the right track: asking questions. However, I suggest a bit of research (may take a month or two) to gain a more thorough understanding of the interrelationship of the components, what's available and then, what will best serve your needs.

If you seek only abstract opinions then, forget the 5770, increase your power supply, and anticipate the need for increased case cooling. But that is just my opinion; you'll get others but how do you choose from all of the opinions?

Monk

Update: while I was composing this response others came up with their suggested cards. And that's an issue you will have to reconcile: 10 people may give you ten different suggestions as to which card to buy. How do you choose from that list?

 

[djanggo]

thanks a lot of you guys,all of your comments and suggestion is very helpfull on me on how to choose...since im using this g210 maybe i will chooose this gt240 as they are same width and length,but doubles the height of the g210..well actually as i try to open the case,i looked at below and theres much enough room for the bigger card but i didnt see any other slot except for the slot that the g210 was occupied...Now is there any other card that has the same size of gt240 but has more speed or what the other called horsepower in terms of gaming?

 

[apollodominion]

with the current price drops due to DirectX 11 cards a Geforce GTX 275/285 or directX 11 card Radeon 48xx or 56xx

For me i went overkill now so my pc will last at least 2 years. 2x Geforce GTX 480s in SLi and a 3rd (Wich is my old card) GTX285 OC 730MHZ 1GB Inno3D GOLD!! Paired wit ha I7 980X and 12GB RAM

 

[stormy13]

Specs on the motherboard in his HP,

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs Motherboard Specifications (Eton) HP Pavilion p6255d Desktop PC - HP technical support (United Kingdom - English)

Unless there is something in the first PCI-E 1x slot next to the PCI-E 16x slot (where the current G210), then as long as there is enough space from the back panel to the front of the case (for most of the cards mentioned so far, you need 10-10.5") then any card will fit (even if the card has a dual slot fan on it).

Now with that said you will need a new power supply as well. djanggo do you have any links to sites in the Philippines? Would make it easier to make a recommendation if we can see what things are going for where you are.

 

[Joshatdot]

1. you'll need a new power supply for any newer better gfx card, something with atleast 400w & a PCIe 6pin connector
2. I would recommend the GTS 250, or HD 5750, either form XFX or Zotac.

 

[bobkn]

To confirm what others have said:

Your G210 may be a low-profile card, but your PC accepts full-height cards. (I suppose that your G210 has a full-height slot adapter, even though it's basically a low-profile card.)

I haven't found a maximum card length specified for it, though.

There are card better than the G210 that still don't require auxiliary PCI-E power connections. (nVidia GTS 240, ATI Radeon HD 5670, for example. The latter is a DX11 part.) Whether your 300W PS would be up to the task is worrisome, even though you wouldn't need at PCI-E power connectors.

 

[stormy13]

I haven't found a maximum card length specified for it, though.

Every PC needs good graphics.

under Specifications (the OEM channel only G310 is the exact same card for anyone that has one). Unfortunately Nvidia's marketing speak makes the card out to be more than it is. It is OK for HTPC use, but for gaming forget it.

There are card better than the G210 that still don't require auxiliary PCI-E power connections. (nVidia GTS 240, ATI Radeon HD 5670, for example. The latter is a DX11 part.)

Another option to that that should be OK with that 300W (be close, but should be OK) is is the HD 5570. It's a little bit slower than the above mentioned 5670, but it also requires less power.