PSU upgrade.

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Have rebuilt my PC today, new mobo, HDD, more RAM, powered sound card and Win 64 bit.

I picked up a s/hand PSU (Antec 650W) but it would not run. Gone back to old 500W PSU but it only has a 4 pin mobo connector instesd of 8.

Everything is now working but I need to upgrade the PSU. Is there any harm in running the 4 pin 12V for now? I will also add a new video card which may need power - how big a PSU should I buy? What brands are recommended.

I will update my system info.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mixture
OS
Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
Phenom II X4 955 BE
Motherboard
GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
8GB Kingston DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire HD5670 1GB.
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence ST
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Seagate 1TB
Hitachi 1TB

WD 500GB external
PSU
Corsair VX550W
Case
Cooler Master Silio 500
Cooling
Noctua NH-U9B SE2
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Evoluent Vertimouse 3 (wireless)
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Corsair, Antec, Seasonic are good brands.
650 watt should do you fine, that is what I am running and I have a ton of shit in my case.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HAL-9000
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
CPU
Intel i7 3770K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z77
Memory
16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3
Graphics Card(s)
XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity
Sound Card
Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD
Monitor(s) Displays
23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic
Screen Resolution
5760x1080
Hard Drives
16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB,
PSU
Antec True Power New 650watt
Case
Cooler Master HAF-932
Cooling
Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan
Keyboard
Logitech G15 and G13
Mouse
Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbit
Other Info
Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC
Hi,

It's not advised to use a 4 pin on a 8 pin motherboard, you can find more information on this site about it: All about the various PC power supply cables and connectors

I myself use a Corsair PSU (HX850W), had good reviews and i'm very happy with it.

Here's a good site to calculate the wattage you need: Enermax Power Supply Calculator

Also good to know is that it's not only the wattage that's important but also how much amperage the 12v line has.

MK2
 

My Computer

OS
7
You should use the 8-Pin if possible.

I use a 550W OCZ PSU it has both 4 and 8 Pin. Naturally, I use the 8.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 1520 (Laptop)/ Home (Desktop)
OS
Windows 7 x64 / Same
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 / Intel Core i7 930
Motherboard
Intel 945 / Asus P6X58D-E
Memory
4GB / 6GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS / ASUS 1GB
Sound Card
Whatever Dell gave me :-( / Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.4" LCD / Crappy CRT
Hard Drives
Seagate 500GB SATA; 7200 RPM / Seagate 1TB SATA; 7200 RPM
PSU
N/A / OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular
Case
N/A / Antec 900
Cooling
Air
Mouse
Microsoft Presenter (Bluetooth)
Have rebuilt my PC today, new mobo, HDD, more RAM, powered sound card and Win 64 bit.

I picked up a s/hand PSU (Antec 650W) but it would not run. Gone back to old 500W PSU but it only has a 4 pin mobo connector instesd of 8.

Everything is now working but I need to upgrade the PSU. Is there any harm in running the 4 pin 12V for now? I will also add a new video card which may need power - how big a PSU should I buy? What brands are recommended.

I will update my system info.
Recommend that you use 8 pin, parts of your mobo are not being provided power.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 7600 1 X64
CPU
AMD PHENOM II X 550 PROCESSOR 3.1 ghz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A78-TE
Memory
Corsair 4 gig ddr 3
Graphics Card(s)
ati radeon 3300
Sound Card
ati hd
Monitor(s) Displays
syncmaster 2033sw
Screen Resolution
1600X900 60 hz refresh
Hard Drives
twin_seagates SATA's 1 TB & 500 Gig, hitachi_slimline 160 gig
PSU
antec_550 watt
Case
cooler master GLite
Cooling
stock_heat sink
Internet Speed
20mbs up/ 1.5mbs down
Other Info
favorite child "stewie"
favorite dog "brian"
Get yourself one of THESE
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built Custom Computer.
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
i7-4770K
Motherboard
Asus Z87 Sabertooth
Memory
16Gig DDR3-2400
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GT740
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Benq 27" - Dell 23' - Benq 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 128g SSD
1xWestern Digital Caviar Green 1tb
2xWestern Digital Caviar Green 2 tb
PSU
Seasonic 760 watt Platinum
Case
Coolermaster Haf - X
Cooling
Noctua NH-C12P CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech illuminated keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Perfomance MX
Internet Speed
Cable = speeds to 20Mbps downsteam and 512kbps upsteam
Antivirus
Avast Internet Security
Browser
Firefox
IMO, it would be safer to find a 650W PSU with the 8-Pin.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 1520 (Laptop)/ Home (Desktop)
OS
Windows 7 x64 / Same
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 / Intel Core i7 930
Motherboard
Intel 945 / Asus P6X58D-E
Memory
4GB / 6GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS / ASUS 1GB
Sound Card
Whatever Dell gave me :-( / Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.4" LCD / Crappy CRT
Hard Drives
Seagate 500GB SATA; 7200 RPM / Seagate 1TB SATA; 7200 RPM
PSU
N/A / OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular
Case
N/A / Antec 900
Cooling
Air
Mouse
Microsoft Presenter (Bluetooth)
Have rebuilt my PC today, new mobo, HDD, more RAM, powered sound card and Win 64 bit.

I picked up a s/hand PSU (Antec 650W) but it would not run. Gone back to old 500W PSU but it only has a 4 pin mobo connector instesd of 8.

Everything is now working but I need to upgrade the PSU. Is there any harm in running the 4 pin 12V for now? I will also add a new video card which may need power - how big a PSU should I buy? What brands are recommended.

I will update my system info.

The last couple of motherboards I have purchased have 8 pin 12V sockets, but they came with plugs that blocked four of the pins. I believe that was to make iteasy to know how to insert the 4 pin plug. That suggests that most CPUs don't really need the extra current. (I haven't seen specs on that.)

If your system is running reliably with the 4 pin connector, I suggest that you not worry about it. I built up a system a few months ago that had an 8 pin socket; it runs perfectly reliably with a 4 pin plug. (Decent Antec PSU.)

Of course, on the newer systems, I removed the plug and used my 8 pin power connector. Because I could. (And I overclock.)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
homegrown
OS
Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7-3930k
Motherboard
Asus P9X79 Pro
Memory
16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133
Graphics Card(s)
eVGA GTX680
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium
Monitor(s) Displays
As PA246Q
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200
Hard Drives
Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black
PSU
PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire
Case
Silverstone FT02
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
cheap Logitech USB
Mouse
Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB
Internet Speed
6Mb cable
Other Info
Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers
I'm also running the Antec Earthwatts 650 PSU and it's a real PowerHouse!
I'm running three SATA II hard drives, two DVD burners, 6 gig's of ram, AMD 5200+ X2, 64 cpu and a floppy drive and multi-card reader. OH, and 12 cooling fans.

So I'm curious what has happened to your 650 that it won't start. I'd almost have to suspect that if it wasn't hit by lightning, then it's not connected properly.

Just curious......

:cool:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Made
OS
Windows XP-Pro-SP3, Windows 7
CPU
AMD, 2X, Dual Core 5200+
Motherboard
MSI K9N Platinum
Memory
6 gig DDR2, Super Talent
Graphics Card(s)
Winfast
Sound Card
On Board AC97
Monitor(s) Displays
19" Envision LCD
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
3x , Maxtor/Seagate SATA2 (160, 160, 200gig)
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650
Case
Pac Man Mid-Tower
Cooling
11 fans
Keyboard
Generic
Mouse
MS digital
Internet Speed
5 Meg Cable
It's perfectly fine to run a 8-pin mobo off a 4-pin connection. As long as you aren't overclcking that is.


All PSU's have duds for varying reasons. Probably why it was 2nd hand...
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Systems by SmartEyeball
OS
8 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770K 4.6GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z77 WS
Memory
16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhz
Graphics Card(s)
x2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
Sound Card
SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB / ATH-AD900 Headphones
Monitor(s) Displays
x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung
Screen Resolution
5760*1200/ 1920*1200
Hard Drives
2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black * Sony Optirac DVD
PSU
Silverstone Strider Evolution 1200W
Case
Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
Mouse
Thermaltake Theron (Highly Recommended) + Razer Imperator
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
IE, FF, WaterFox
Other Info
GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport V1 Pedals + CSR shifter/7G-H ▼Saitek X52 Pro ▼ TrackIR 5 Pro
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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Got a Corsair VX 550W unit so should be fine now. Thanks for the replies.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mixture
OS
Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
Phenom II X4 955 BE
Motherboard
GA-MA785GM-US2H
Memory
8GB Kingston DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire HD5670 1GB.
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence ST
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Seagate 1TB
Hitachi 1TB

WD 500GB external
PSU
Corsair VX550W
Case
Cooler Master Silio 500
Cooling
Noctua NH-U9B SE2
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Evoluent Vertimouse 3 (wireless)
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
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