Solved Question on Windows 7 backup

DefenderX1

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So after my last PC got fried by a power surge I've been backing up my HDD (lost a HDD from it) with just the default W7 utility. I have little personal experience with B&R in Windows so I set it to do an image and file backup & selected the file locations I wanted backed up.

After reading around here it seems I may be just reinventing the wheel by doing both image & file backups. If I do an image backup, a file backup would be totally unnecessary wouldn't it?

What're the pros & cons of image vs file? I liked the sound of an image backup as it makes it seems I don't have to reinstall Windows or my programs and their data from scratch (which is the biggest hassle for me, the files I care about are most are images and music which are backed up on several other devices as well).

Thanks!
 

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Image backup. :sarc:
pros:
- The files are compressed depengin on the method you are working with, you can save space.
- You can backup any amount of data to DVDs using winrar, you can set the file size manually, later the 'parts' can be rejoined easily.
- If someone else looks at the backuped image, he/she can't find out what is in there, you can password protect rar files and make them read-only, so no one can delte them (HDDs)
cons:
- You need a software to access your data.
- Slower access due to the decompressing process (really depends on file type).
 

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Yes and no. If you do the image and file backup at the same time the thing you gain is that it is easier to restore just the files. It is possible to extract just your files from an image but more difficult. See this tutorial http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/24771-system-image-extract-files-using-disk-management.html

A better solution is take the image out of the scheduled backup and do it more frequently so that your files are more current. You can then do separate image backups to match your needs. See this tutorial http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
 

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Hello & welcome to Seven Forums.

Sorry to hear about the misfortune with your previous PC.

If you made a complete system image back up, a file back up would be pointless IMO. Read this tutorial:
Backup complete computer: create an image backup.
The pros of a system image are obvious, as it is an exact clone of the partition containing the OS, so there's no hassle with clean install & updating.
You might want to take a look at this thread as well:
Imaging with free Macrium.
 

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Speedgamer: Are you talking about image or file backups?

Kado: I might be missing something but it sounds like you're contradicting yourself. How do you take the image out of the scheduled backup, yet run it more frequently?

And FYI since I didn't mention it before, I run a weekly backup.

Thanks again!
 

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AOC 17" LCD @ 1440x900
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WD Cavier Green 1tb x2
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Antec EarthWatts 750W
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Coolermaster HAF922
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Coolermaster Hyper 212+
In the change settings dialogue uncheck Include a system image.

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You can then create a system image manually when you need to because of Windows Updates or installed program changes.

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Defender: I'm talking about image backup, but you can call it file backup as I meant .iso and .rar files written to a HD or DVD
 

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Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68X-UD3-B3
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Asus GTS 450
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500W Coolink
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Genius G-Pen F610 (PenPad)
Defender: I'm talking about image backup, but you can call it file backup as I meant .iso and .rar files written to a HD or DVD
The reason I ask is because typically "file backup" would just be the backup of individual files, where as an image would be just a full copy of the drive/partition itself.

I think I'll just periodically backup an image of the drive & that should suffice.

Thanks!
 

My Computer

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Myself
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 930 @ 3.8ghz
Motherboard
ASUS P6T
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 8gb
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD5850
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC 17" LCD @ 1440x900
Hard Drives
WD Cavier Green 1tb x2
PSU
Antec EarthWatts 750W
Case
Coolermaster HAF922
Cooling
Coolermaster Hyper 212+
The reason I ask is because typically "file backup" would just be the backup of individual files, where as an image would be just a full copy of the drive/partition itself.

I think I'll just periodically backup an image of the drive & that should suffice.

Thanks!

If time is not a problem, and if you don't need to use individual file backups on a regular basis, then a system image is probably the best way to go. Windows 7 imaging tool takes about 40 minutes to image 100GB for me. Macrium free and Paragon free take about 30 minutes, just for comparison purposes.

Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download

Free Backup Software: Paragon Backup & Recovery Free Edition - Overview
 

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