Question re: Release versions....

CommonTater

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Is there any site tracking bugs/problems by release ... Premium, Pro, Ultimate etc?

What I'd be interested in seeing is what problems might be unique to each...
 

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CommonTater said:
Is there any site tracking bugs/problems by release ... Premium, Pro, Ultimate etc?

What I'd be interested in seeing is what problems might be unique to each...
Click to expand...

I'm sure there are bugs related to features only available in specific versions, such as XP mode with Pro./Ult.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
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Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz
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Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1)
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EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition
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Realtek ALC888
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21" VIZIO TV
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DarkNovaGamer said:
CommonTater said:
Is there any site tracking bugs/problems by release ... Premium, Pro, Ultimate etc?

What I'd be interested in seeing is what problems might be unique to each...
Click to expand...

I'm sure there are bugs related to features only available in specific versions, such as XP mode with Pro./Ult.
Click to expand...

Exactly... and it would be nice to know what they are and how often they occur. The goal is to assess stability of the various releases.

You see, I purchased 6 copies of Ultimate for the family. With VLite it's possible to extract Professional out of the ultimate install disk (I did that last night an my keys even still work) and If this will enhance stability... it will save me from trashing $1200 worth of software then having to spend another $700 on the lesser version.
 

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Homebrew
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XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
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Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz)
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Asus M2N-MX SE Plus
Memory
Kingston DDR2 800 2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GF-8400
Sound Card
Realtek on Motherboard
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Acer x-193bw
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1440 x 900
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Western Digital 500g
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350watt In-Win
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In-Win
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yes
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5mpbs
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Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP).
CommonTater said:
DarkNovaGamer said:
CommonTater said:
Is there any site tracking bugs/problems by release ... Premium, Pro, Ultimate etc?

What I'd be interested in seeing is what problems might be unique to each...
Click to expand...

I'm sure there are bugs related to features only available in specific versions, such as XP mode with Pro./Ult.
Click to expand...

Exactly... and it would be nice to know what they are and how often they occur. The goal is to assess stability of the various releases.

You see, I purchased 6 copies of Ultimate for the family. With VLite it's possible to extract Professional out of the ultimate install disk (I did that last night an my keys even still work) and If this will enhance stability... it will save me from trashing $1200 worth of software.
Click to expand...

You realize the Ultimate keys will only work on Ultimate right? Also, if you extract the .ISO of your Ultimate disc and delete the efi folder inside the ISO it will allow you to select all versions of that architecture.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
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Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz
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Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1)
Memory
2x2GB & 2x1GB (6GB) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz @ 1080MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition
Sound Card
Realtek ALC888
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21" VIZIO TV
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1680x1050 @ 60Hz
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Western Digital WD6401AALS - 640GB
Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB
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Corsair 750W
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NZXT Nemesis Elite
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Logitech Wireless S520
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Logitech Wireless S520 - Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse
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DarkNovaGamer said:
You realize the Ultimate keys will only work on Ultimate right? Also, if you extract the .ISO of your Ultimate disc and delete the efi folder inside the ISO it will allow you to select all versions of that architecture.
Click to expand...

I'm pretty sure that's what VLite did... at the start of it's pass it asks which version to "start from" and I simply selected Professional... From there I ditched the speech recognition, natual language search, 100 or so languages I don't read and media center. Saved the whole thing... set it up on a pendrive and my Ultimate key worked on it perfectly. What can I say?
 

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Homebrew
OS
XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
CPU
Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz)
Motherboard
Asus M2N-MX SE Plus
Memory
Kingston DDR2 800 2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GF-8400
Sound Card
Realtek on Motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer x-193bw
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 500g
PSU
350watt In-Win
Case
In-Win
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Air
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yes
Mouse
yes
Internet Speed
5mpbs
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Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP).
CommonTater said:
DarkNovaGamer said:
You realize the Ultimate keys will only work on Ultimate right? Also, if you extract the .ISO of your Ultimate disc and delete the efi folder inside the ISO it will allow you to select all versions of that architecture.
Click to expand...

I'm pretty sure that's what VLite did... at the start of it's pass it asks which version to "start from" and I simply selected Professional... From there I ditched the speech recognition, natual language search, 100 or so languages I don't read and media center. Saved the whole thing... set it up on a pendrive and my Ultimate key worked on it perfectly. What can I say?
Click to expand...

I could be wrong but I thought vLite wasn't compatible with anything after Vista SP1?
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
CPU
Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1)
Memory
2x2GB & 2x1GB (6GB) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz @ 1080MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition
Sound Card
Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
21" VIZIO TV
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD6401AALS - 640GB
Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
NZXT Nemesis Elite
Cooling
Thermaltake SpinQ
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless S520
Mouse
Logitech Wireless S520 - Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 20mbps, Upload: 3mbps
DarkNovaGamer said:
I could be wrong but I thought vLite wasn't compatible with anything after Vista SP1?
Click to expand...

I had no problems with it... Granted it's no longer supported by it's programmer since MS came out with it's own configuration tools but, IMO, VLite is still far easier and quicker to use.
 

My Computer

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Homebrew
OS
XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
CPU
Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz)
Motherboard
Asus M2N-MX SE Plus
Memory
Kingston DDR2 800 2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GF-8400
Sound Card
Realtek on Motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer x-193bw
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 500g
PSU
350watt In-Win
Case
In-Win
Cooling
Air
Keyboard
yes
Mouse
yes
Internet Speed
5mpbs
Other Info
Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP).
CommonTater said:
DarkNovaGamer said:
I could be wrong but I thought vLite wasn't compatible with anything after Vista SP1?
Click to expand...

I had no problems with it... Granted it's no longer supported by it's programmer since MS came out with it's own configuration tools but, IMO, VLite is still far easier and quicker to use.
Click to expand...
As someone on here that has extensively studied vLite (I have a tutorial dedicated to this), there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to recommend using this for Win7....

The reasons?

1. vLite was made by nuhi to be used for Windows Vista and Windows Vista SP1. Anything past that is unsupported and the app may remove mission critical files (which it does)

2. I agree that it is possible to use vLite for Windows 7...but the resulting "chopped build" will have underlining issues caused by like I said above....vLite was made to remove files based on Windows Vista's file architecture and no matter how much the two are alike...they are not the same.

3. Why try and strip down Windows 7 to begin with? Vista was almost a necessity cause of the lack of tweaking it for performance. Windows 7 is the almost tweak of Windows Vista...a slimmed down optimized improved version. All of my builds I made all chanted the same thing....I would be saving disk space and that is all. The supposed "RAM saving" people talk about is based on that timely myth that RAM saved is a good thing. Windows 7's Superfetch has been improved to a level where RAM saved is now something I would rather NOT SEE

In conclusion...to avoid a lot of pointless installs of "frakenbuilds" for illusory performance boosts and saved HD space...please stop using vLite on Windows 7. It was here for Windows Vista and now (as Vista has become)...it is a relic of the past
 

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Zidane24 said:
CommonTater said:
DarkNovaGamer said:
I could be wrong but I thought vLite wasn't compatible with anything after Vista SP1?
Click to expand...

I had no problems with it... Granted it's no longer supported by it's programmer since MS came out with it's own configuration tools but, IMO, VLite is still far easier and quicker to use.
Click to expand...
As someone on here that has extensively studied vLite (I have a tutorial dedicated to this), there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to recommend using this for Win7....

The reasons?

1. vLite was made by nuhi to be used for Windows Vista and Windows Vista SP1. Anything past that is unsupported and the app may remove mission critical files (which it does)

2. I agree that it is possible to use vLite for Windows 7...but the resulting "chopped build" will have underlining issues caused by like I said above....vLite was made to remove files based on Windows Vista's file architecture and no matter how much the two are alike...they are not the same.

3. Why try and strip down Windows 7 to begin with? Vista was almost a necessity cause of the lack of tweaking it for performance. Windows 7 is the almost tweak of Windows Vista...a slimmed down optimized improved version. All of my builds I made all chanted the same thing....I would be saving disk space and that is all. The supposed "RAM saving" people talk about is based on that timely myth that RAM saved is a good thing. Windows 7's Superfetch has been improved to a level where RAM saved is now something I would rather NOT SEE

In conclusion...to avoid a lot of pointless installs of "frakenbuilds" for illusory performance boosts and saved HD space...please stop using vLite on Windows 7. It was here for Windows Vista and now (as Vista has become)...it is a relic of the past
Click to expand...

Well said and I do have to agree.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
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Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz
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Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1)
Memory
2x2GB & 2x1GB (6GB) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz @ 1080MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition
Sound Card
Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
21" VIZIO TV
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD6401AALS - 640GB
Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB
PSU
Corsair 750W
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NZXT Nemesis Elite
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Thermaltake SpinQ
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Logitech Wireless S520
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As you placed the install files to a pendrive, all you needed to do was delete the file efi.
 

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theog said:
As you placed the install files to a pendrive, all you needed to do was delete the file efi.
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Thanks... I've got half a day on my hands here, so I'll give that a try.

As for the question of why I would strip down Windows 7...

Speech recognition ... 450m
Languages ... 1.1g
media center ... 400m
natural language search ... 500m

And none of them will ever be used on this system, not even once from curiosity.

This is BLOAT... plain and simple.
 

My Computer

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Homebrew
OS
XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
CPU
Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz)
Motherboard
Asus M2N-MX SE Plus
Memory
Kingston DDR2 800 2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GF-8400
Sound Card
Realtek on Motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer x-193bw
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 500g
PSU
350watt In-Win
Case
In-Win
Cooling
Air
Keyboard
yes
Mouse
yes
Internet Speed
5mpbs
Other Info
Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP).
CommonTater said:
theog said:
As you placed the install files to a pendrive, all you needed to do was delete the file efi.
Click to expand...

Thanks... I've got half a day on my hands here, so I'll give that a try.

As for the question of why I would strip down Windows 7...

Speech recognition ... 450m
Languages ... 1.1g
media center ... 400m
natural language search ... 500m

And none of them will ever be used on this system, not even once from curiosity.

This is BLOAT... plain and simple.
Click to expand...

To you anyways. At any rate, try installing Windows WITHOUT vLiting the image.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom | Whitebox
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
CPU
Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1)
Memory
2x2GB & 2x1GB (6GB) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz @ 1080MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition
Sound Card
Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
21" VIZIO TV
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD6401AALS - 640GB
Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
NZXT Nemesis Elite
Cooling
Thermaltake SpinQ
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless S520
Mouse
Logitech Wireless S520 - Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 20mbps, Upload: 3mbps
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