Question Regarding Talk Manager.

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Question Regarding Windows Task Manager.

Just curious, is task manager fool proof? Can you always depend on it showing exactly whats running on your OS? Or can certain malware/viruses hide themselves? In my experience working on my customers machines the malware/virrses will always show in task manager (although ending the process is pointless) I feel windows does a good job of knowing what going on.

Any thoughts?
 

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For the most part I agree with what you are saying. I too am a consultant and remove repair virii regularly for clients. But, virii are getting more sophisticated all the time.

I use the bank analogy... Banks used to have no bars, no alarms, no bullet proof glass, etc.. As criminals learned so did the banks... each time a new protection was put in place, the criminals come up with a way to circumnavigate that. Then the bank puts a new protection in place. The same is true for virus creators/programmers and AV companies.

Yes Win7 does a great job... but what if a virus hijacks a known executable how do you tell the legit from the illegit in Task Manager? <--- just thinking outloud!
 

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You will not see a rootkit in Task Manager or any malware that installs itself or part of itself as a device driver. You need special software and some good help to identify and remove them, if they can be removed, not all can.

I think Virut was one that when yoiu got it, you had to do a clean install to get rid of it.
 

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You will not see a rootkit in Task Manager or any malware that installs itself or part of itself as a device driver. You need special software and some good help to identify and remove them, if they can be removed, not all can.

I think Virut was one that when yoiu got it, you had to do a clean install to get rid of it.

You can see many offending apps/virii/etc. in Task Manager! It may not list as the correct file or name but if you know your system and whats running regularly you can see misbehaving apps... typically! I watch memory usage for "bad" apps, etc.
 

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Replace Task Manager with Process Explorer and add the columns you need. Better choice.
 

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Replace Task Manager with Process Explorer and add the columns you need. Better choice.

Parabellum: Perhaps in the future you can be more clear and specific with your answers. I had no idea what you were talking about until I googled "Process Explorer"... and neither did anyone else probably!

Yes, it is a step above Task Manager, from MS Technet for free and released just a few weeks ago... Process Explorer

A really nice feature is that its a small exe file and can be run from a USB flash drive!
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
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Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
Memory
4GB DDR2 800MHz (PC6400) OCZ Reaper
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Nvidia GE Force 8800 GTS
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Asus Xonar DX
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Samsung SyncMaster 2333HD
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1920 x 1080
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WD Caviar Black 750GB - 7200RPM - 32MB cache
WD Caviar Green 1.5TB - 5400RPM - 64MB cache
WD Caviar Green 2.0TB - 5400RPM - 64MB cache
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PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750
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Gigabyte 3D Aurora
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Case is Air - 5ea. 120mm fans (mix of Arctic and Xigmatec)
Keyboard
MS Natural Wireless KB
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MS Wireless Mouse
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50 mbps down/5 mbps up
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AVerMedia - AVerTVHD G2 Dual Tuner Card
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