Random BSODs

[kasotol]

I'll do that. If it does some harm, then it does.. I'm just so tired to see blue, so I try anything what might help.

I'll let you know, what will happen.

 

[kasotol]

I think BIOS Update is ok now. No damage done, I guess! We'll see what happens when I start-up cold computer next time..

 

[Arc]

OK, let us know.

 

[kasotol]

And Blue Screen again when starting up cold.. There has also appeared some CHKDSK (or something like that) when starting up the computer, I have seen it two times now.

By the way, I tell you again, no BSODs in long time when computer is running and warm..

Attached new .zip-file..

 

[Arc]

Readings are the same as earlier.

CHKIMG_EXTENSION: !chkimg -lo 50 -db !hal
[COLOR=Red]4 errors : !hal (fffff80003255a84-fffff80003255abc)[/COLOR]
fffff80003255a80  08  44  3b  cf *56  0d  48  8b  84  24  b0  00  00  00  48  89 .D;.V.H..$....H.
fffff80003255a90  18  eb  0b  33  d2  48  8b  cb  ff  15  92  65 *de  ff  33  d2 ...3.H.....e..3.
fffff80003255aa0  49  8b  cf  ff *11  87  65  fe  ff  8b  c7  48  8b  9c  24  90 I.....e....H..$.
fffff80003255ab0  00  00  00  48  83  c4  50  41  5f  41  5e  41 *59  41  5c  5f ...H..PA_A^AYA\_

MODULE_NAME: memory_corruption

IMAGE_NAME:  memory_corruption

FOLLOWUP_NAME:  memory_corruption

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  0

MEMORY_CORRUPTOR:  STRIDE

STACK_COMMAND:  .cxr 0xfffff88003183b00 ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_MEMORY_CORRUPTION_STRIDE

BUCKET_ID:  X64_MEMORY_CORRUPTION_STRIDE

ANALYSIS_SOURCE:  KM

FAILURE_ID_HASH_STRING:  km:x64_memory_corruption_stride

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {54f6a81e-bd17-9afc-f167-0352818951c1}

Followup: memory_corruption
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hal means Hardware Abstraction layer, an abstraction layer, implemented in software, between the physical hardware of a computer and the software that runs on that computer. Memtest finds no error there. The BIOS is up-to-date, the latest version for M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3.

Stress test the Graphics Card using Furmark.
Video Card - Stress Test with Furmark

Stress test the CPU.
Hardware - Stress Test With Prime95

Replace the RAM to some other ones.

Let us see what happens there.

 

[essenbe]

Hi kasotol, when you run Furmark, make sure you keep a close watch on Graphics card temps using a GPU monitoring program. If you don't have one you can use MSI Afterburner. All stress tests cause the temps to rise very quickly. The same with Prime95, watch your CPU temps closely. If either one get too high, stop the test.

Also could you download the diagnostic program for your hard drive manufacturer here Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities (Storage) - TACKtech Corp. and run the short test and the long test.

Also look at option 2 in this tutorial and run this test http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1538-sfc-scannow-command-system-file-checker.html
Arc is doing a great job and is giving you the right tests to run. If you have any questions, Arc will be glad to provide any instructions needed. Due to the fact that your dump files always point to memory corruption, I would consider running memtest86+ again. It needs to run for 8 passes all at one time. The test is the best we have, but can make mistakes. Also, make sure you run memtest86+. There are 2 tests memtest86 and memtest86+. Memtest86+ is the better test and the one we all use. Please be sure to run that one. I would also suggest you use version 4.20. It works better for me. I have had problems running the newer one even though it is a little newer and faster.

 

[kasotol]

Stress test the Graphics Card using Furmark.
Video Card - Stress Test with Furmark

Stress test the CPU.
Hardware - Stress Test With Prime95

What there should happen if something is wrong? I ran Furmark for 10 minutes, nothing special happened, temperatures max. 79°C.

 

[kasotol]

Also look at option 2 in this tutorial and run this test http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1538-sfc-scannow-command-system-file-checker.html

Hi,

Did this test (4 times). It didn't run in English, but I try to translate what it says:
"Windows resource protection found corrupted files, but it could'nt fix some of them.
More info in CBS.Log -file windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. Example: C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log

 

[Arc]

Have you tried the prime95 test?

We need to run this one too, in order to minimize the possibilities.

 

[kasotol]

Have you tried the prime95 test?

We need to run this one too, in order to minimize the possibilities.

Done now. Nothing happened.

Haven't seen any BSODs lately, because I start first BIOS.. But I tried to start computer normally and there's BSOD every time.

 

[essenbe]

kasotol, Could you explain what you mean by 'I start first BIOS'? Do you mean you go into bios first, then save and exit to start the Operating system? If so, what do you do when you go into Bios that stops it from BSOD when the OS starts? Just so you understand, when you turn on your computer, BIOS starts first and performs a POST (pre operation self test) in which it initializes (starts) every piece of hardware. When it finishes that's when you see the manufacturer's logo. Then it hands everything over to the Operating system, which is when you see the 'starting windows' logo and the balls coming together. When you see that is the first time Windows itself becomes involved in the start up procedure. Everything before the starting Windows is BIOS. So, could you please explain to me exactly what you do that keeps it from a BSOD?

Also, in post #28 you said that the sfc /scannow found corrupted files it couldn't fix. Could go to that location and copy the CBS logs and paste them on your desktop. Then right click them and select send to > Compressed Zip folder. Please upload the ZIP folder in your next post. Also, could you let us know what language they will be in?

Could I get you to completely fill out your system specs so we will know what hardware you are using. If you will look at the bottom left of this post and click 'My System Specs' you will see mine and get an idea of exactly what we would like. If you know yours, you can click my system specs in your post and you will have a link to update system specs, where you can fill your out then be sure to click the save button at the bottom of the page. If you need help this will tell you an easy way to see them and fill them out. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/180324-system-info-see-your-system-specs.html

 

[kasotol]

kasotol, Could you explain what you mean by 'I start first BIOS'? Do you mean you go into bios first, then save and exit to start the Operating system? If so, what do you do when you go into Bios that stops it from BSOD when the OS starts? Just so you understand, when you turn on your computer, BIOS starts first and performs a POST (pre operation self test) in which it initializes (starts) every piece of hardware. When it finishes that's when you see the manufacturer's logo. Then it hands everything over to the Operating system, which is when you see the 'starting windows' logo and the balls coming together. When you see that is the first time Windows itself becomes involved in the start up procedure. Everything before the starting Windows is BIOS. So, could you please explain to me exactly what you do that keeps it from a BSOD?

Sorry. I try to explain. I start the computer from the button, then I snap Delete-button to get in to BIOS Setup (that's what I mean when saying BIOS). Then I just wait for about 5 minutes, then press ESC-button and OK, and the Windows will start with no Blue Screens. I got the tip from Google: Blue screen only on cold boot. [Solved] - Asus - Motherboards
But PSU wasn't my problem (tested with new one).

Also, in post #28 you said that the sfc /scannow found corrupted files it couldn't fix. Could go to that location and copy the CBS logs and paste them on your desktop. Then right click them and select send to > Compressed Zip folder. Please upload the ZIP folder in your next post. Also, could you let us know what language they will be in?

Yes. I think CBS logs are in English. But cmd.exe was in Finnish.

Could I get you to completely fill out your system specs so we will know what hardware you are using. If you will look at the bottom left of this post and click 'My System Specs' you will see mine and get an idea of exactly what we would like. If you know yours, you can click my system specs in your post and you will have a link to update system specs, where you can fill your out then be sure to click the save button at the bottom of the page. If you need help this will tell you an easy way to see them and fill them out. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/180324-system-info-see-your-system-specs.html

I tried to add those. Do I need to add some more?

 

[essenbe]

The hardware specs look OK. When Arc comes back on, he will have to look at the CBS files, I don't know how. Have you tries resetting CMOS? (How To Clear CMOS (Reset BIOS))? If you decide to do that let me know before you do it. Also, when was the last time you did a clean install of Windows 7? Did you make any hardware changes before this started happening?

 

[kasotol]

The hardware specs look OK. When Arc comes back on, he will have to look at the CBS files, I don't know how. Have you tries resetting CMOS? (How To Clear CMOS (Reset BIOS))? If you decide to do that let me know before you do it. Also, when was the last time you did a clean install of Windows 7? Did you make any hardware changes before this started happening?

I haven't tried to reset CMOS.

Clean install of Windows 7 done last time when the computer was build, in December 2010.

No hardware changes done before this started.

Some tip from here fixed that there's no BSODs anymore when computer is running.. But then appeared those cold startup problems.

What do you think could it be caused by Badcaps.net - Badcaps Home ? I try to watch inside my computer soon and probably see if there's something wrong with those caps.. I got this tip from another forum.

 

[essenbe]

I really have no idea about bad caps. Bad capacitors can happen on most anything, but I wouldn't think it would cause the problems you are having. What tip did you receive that stopped the BSODs? It could be a clue of what is happening on the cold starts. We know you have corrupted system files from the scannow results. Corrupted system files can very well cause BSOD and other problems, and usually does cause some type problem. Next time you go into bios, please tell me the values for the +12V, +5V and +3.3V from bios. Also, I'm not sure what that badcaps site was talking about, other than it didn't like windows 8. Have you modded your operating system any? Also, how familiar are you in the bios settings and are you overclocking anything?

 

[Arc]

Nothing very serious can be obtained from the log.

Verify and Repair Transaction completed. All files and registry keys listed in this transaction have been successfully repaired

For cold boot BSODs, altering the RAM voltages is a good way to troubleshoot it.

 

[kasotol]

What tip did you receive that stopped the BSODs? It could be a clue of what is happening on the cold starts.

Oh, sorry, it wasn't probably a tip from here. I had cold startup BSODs before posted this thread here.
But I think "normal use" BSODs disappeared after some driver updates and uninstalls (GPU, network adapter) etc., and some settings with GPU..

Next time you go into bios, please tell me the values for the +12V, +5V and +3.3V from bios. Also, I'm not sure what that badcaps site was talking about, other than it didn't like windows 8. Have you modded your operating system any? Also, how familiar are you in the bios settings and are you overclocking anything?

3.327 5.124 12.130

I would say I haven't done anything for my computer unless there's some problem.

I'm not an expert, but I think I can do most of the things myself if I got (good) instructions. So I think I'm not overclocking.

For cold boot BSODs, altering the RAM voltages is a good way to troubleshoot it.

Arc: Would you help me to try to do that, please?

 

[essenbe]

If you don't have it installed already, download and install CPUz. Then please post screenshots of the CPU, Mainboard, Memory and SPD tabs. On the SPD tab you can select each dimm slot, please post a screenshot of each Dimm slot that has ram installed.

 

[kasotol]

If you don't have it installed already, download and install CPUz. Then please post screenshots of the CPU, Mainboard, Memory and SPD tabs. On the SPD tab you can select each dimm slot, please post a screenshot of each Dimm slot that has ram installed.

Here we go.

 

[essenbe]

Did you set the timings and frequency for the ram? In BIOS make sure the Dram Voltage is set at 1.5V. The ram is set according to the JDEC values, but it can run faster and is designed to run at 1333 (667) with timings of 9-9-9-24 @ 1.50V, which is typical of what most boards set it at. But, the way it is running now is within specs as long as the voltage is set correctly.