Replacing 40GB HDD with 64GB SSD - Image restore question

[vram]

this laptop hardware doesn't support TRIM

Hmm, this is news to me. I did not know that there was a hardware dependency for Trim. How did you find that out.

The M4 is a good SSD. I have the same on this system.

From what I've read, TRIM requires AHCI capable hardware. My laptop doesn't support AHCI.

 

[whs]

Where did you read that? That's news to me too. But that does not mean that it may not be true.

 

[vram]

According to this link, TRIM doesn't require AHCI: IDE, SATA, AHCI, SSDs and TRIM: all you need to know | MSI HQ User-to-User FAQ

Post #2 in this link says AHCI is required for TRIM:

Kingston SSD for my Dell Inspiron E1505

A post on this page also indicated the AHCI requirement:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/266702-32-ahci-question

My E1505 Laptop Doesn't support AHCI in the BIOS, but running fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify comes back DisableDeleteNotify = 0 which means TRIM is enabled so I don't know what to believe.

 

[whs]

See, the fsutil tells you what's going on. Those opinions on those forums are just opinions, not fact.

 

[vram]

See, the fsutil tells you what's going on. Those opinions on those forums are just opinions, not fact.

Guess you're right, but its crazy the amount of misinformation regarding this feature. Either way, definitely happy with the SSD and hope to build a HTPC utilizing one in the near future.

 

[whs]

You are certainly right. Anybody can post stuff on the web. But that does not always mean that it is correct. You have to know what you are reading.

 

[whs]

You can delete your own postings. Go to Edit > Advanced and check 'Delete".

 

[mjf]

For others reimaging from a spinner to an SSD manually even including the System reserved partition with Macrium Reflect works well.
Aside from alignment which you MUST do, Windows 7 seems to fix most things up when you check...trim etc.

See WHS's tutorial if you need more guidance.

 

[marshnjoy]

Noobie here. I've lurked on this forum quite a while. There are some great tutorials and they've helped me alot. Thank you everyone at 7.

This thread has me somewhat befuddled. I thought a clone of the drive with Macrium 5 would duplicate what was on the old drive. Isn't that the point of a clone? If something happens to the drive I wouldn't have to load everything again, but could just restore the cloned image onto a new drive. Wouldn't a clone also clone the alignment?

The thread originally started with imaging the old SSD and wanting to restore an image to a new drive. I can understand that an image of a 40g ssd would not necessarily duplicate the two partitions of the new ssd because it isn't an exact copy of all the data and empty space too, and therefore when restored may not align. But wouldn't a clone overlay and align just like the original?

I have a Cruc M4 64g SSD and want to upsize to a Sam 830 128g. The Crucial M4 has the OS and Programs, but I've moved the User Profiles and Prog Data to the HDD. That way some of what is normally on the C: drive/OS isn't there, but is on the HDD. In a sense what is normally on the OS drive is split between the two drives. (The tutorial from Kari to move the user profiles and Sean's tweaks to the ssd on this forum were a huge help, and it works great.) If I want to use an image of the M4 should I align the Samsung 830 first and then restore the image of both partitions separately to the new drive? Or can I get away with cloning the M4 and sticking it on the Samsung and then changing the large partition size afterward? Would either approach (using an image or clone) work even though I would be crossing over to different manufacturers?

I'd really like to avoid staring all over with reloading Win7 and all the programs and settings on the SSD. I'm not even sure how a clean install will work with the User Profiles and Prog Data on the other drive. Like bummer! If the C: drive can't find the User Profiles and Prog Data on the HDD, then maybe I'd have to reformat the HDD too and re-install the User Profile and Program Data plus all the data. Any help from you knowledgeable people is appreciated.

 

[whs]

1. You mix 'image' and 'clone'. Here we talk about imaging. Cloning is something else.

2. If you reinstall with an installation disk, you need not align the SSD. The installer dows that for you.

3. If you restore an image to the SSD, it is prudent to align it first. However, if you do it right with Macrium Version 5.0., you will keep your initial alignment. Partition Alignment

4. If you want to make your life easier, move the bootmgr to C. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/209885-bootmgr-move-c-easybcd.html Then you can forget the 100MB system partition.

 

[karlsnooks]

Vram,
Win 7 is much smarter than some people think.

You can simply use Win 7 Backup and Restore to create a system image of your HDD.
Then boot from a Win 7 System Repair Disc and choose the option to restore.

I've done this several times, especially when I was testing Win 7's backup and Restore for all kinds of things and everything works like a charm. The only thing I add is that the SSD was Trim capable.

If you were trying to move a Linux OS then you would have to play all of the alignment games. Win 7 is going to take care of that for you. MS made some changes from the XP, Vista days as to alignment of partitions/volumes such that you will have no problems.

 

[karlsnooks]

marshnjoy,
Please do not attempt to hijack a thread.

Start your own thread wherein you state your problem/situation. Then we will be able to direct our answers to your problem.

Your consideration and cooperation is appreciated.
karl

 

[marshnjoy]

@ karl
Sorry about that. No hijack intended. I actually thought my questions were on topic.... replacing a smaller drive with a larger drive, and trying to avoid a reinstall by using a restore process. I'll go back to just reading until I've learned enough to ask pertinent questions.