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I need to resolve a problem with a crashing program. I've gone as far as I can with removing almost everything off of my production system. Ideally, I'd like to install W7 on a separate disk, install the problem program and just see if it works on a pristine system.

Tech support for the program is clueless as it is a unique problem. I've searched the net far and wide and no one seems to have this problem.

Is there a way to do this without pulling plugs on drives and messing up the mbr location(s)?

FYI: the program is Reaktor 5.5.1 which is a synthesizer from Native Instruments. I have their other programs and all work as expected.

Any suggestions greatly welcomed.
Burt
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Crafted by Hand
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit Retail
CPU
Intel i7-4790K
Motherboard
ASRock Z97 Extreme6
Memory
2 x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 13800
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming
Sound Card
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ 3200
Screen Resolution
1440p
Hard Drives
Corsair 250GB SSD
WD RED 2 TB SATA
WD 500GB Green SATA
WD 1TB Black SATA x2
PSU
Corsair CMPSU 750TX
Case
Cooler Master 932 HAF
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
Roccat Ryos MK
Mouse
Roccat Kone XTD
Internet Speed
20 Mb - CenturyLink
Antivirus
Security Essentials
Browser
FireFox Latest
Other Info
Moving to Windows 10
Right De-install it, get a good anti virus scaner and virus scan, delete possible viruses, once everything is done and there is no errors with that, re - install it.. and make sure the virus scanner doesn't pick up anything


Plus is there any past problems as it could be your sound card if a sound program is crashing..

Is there any past problems with your sound card? (Answer this before doing my above)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite C855-1GP
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601)
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B950 @ 2.10GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Motherboard
Intel Sandy Bridge ID1E59
Memory
6GB DDR3 Dual 6034 Mbytes
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
LGD033A
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS547575A9E384 600GB
Keyboard
Normal Keyboard
Mouse
Techair 3D Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
4.04mbps download speed 0.54mbps upload speed
Other Info
Awesome Laptop.
Reaktor 5.5.1

Have you checked their website to make sure this particular application is compatible with Win 7, don't take it for granted that all their applications are 7 compatible.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home build.
OS
Vista Ultimate 32 bit, Win 7 Pro 32 bit, Win 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
Intel i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67 GHZ, OC 3.7 GHZ
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D
Memory
4 Gig
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS450
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24"
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
1000 GIG
1000 GIG
PSU
650
Case
Antec Nine Hundred Two
Internet Speed
14 MB (APPROX)
I've scanned for viruses using avast. Ive cleaned the registry with wise reg cleaner and cleared junk with ccleaner.

My sound card is on-board with latest RealTek drivers. Audio drivers are ASIO4ALL.

Had a long discussion with tech support re Reaktor. 5.5.1 is made specifically to address any problems with W7. I couldn't find anyone with this problem.

I did notice that when I changed the bios to use HDMI I got a tad further in Reaktor but still crashed. Tried a number of compatability settings to no avail.

I've budgeted for a Focusrite Saffire 6 audio interface, a good pair of cans and KRK rokits. I doubt that will resolve the problem tho.

Because my memory is so bad, I'm reluctant to do a re-install without a means of reverting to programs that I forgot to backup. That's why I'd like to have a full system available somewhere. Doesn't have to run but I can pickup any tidbits that I forgot to backup.

If I use Acronis will I have an mbr conflict?

Thanks,
Burt
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Crafted by Hand
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit Retail
CPU
Intel i7-4790K
Motherboard
ASRock Z97 Extreme6
Memory
2 x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 13800
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming
Sound Card
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ 3200
Screen Resolution
1440p
Hard Drives
Corsair 250GB SSD
WD RED 2 TB SATA
WD 500GB Green SATA
WD 1TB Black SATA x2
PSU
Corsair CMPSU 750TX
Case
Cooler Master 932 HAF
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
Roccat Ryos MK
Mouse
Roccat Kone XTD
Internet Speed
20 Mb - CenturyLink
Antivirus
Security Essentials
Browser
FireFox Latest
Other Info
Moving to Windows 10
You may want to see if a repair install, may fix it.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

It could help to check any major problems.

Acronis shouldn't have mbr conflict, but I am not so trustworthy on that matter. I haven't exactly used Acronis before but I do know about it.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite C855-1GP
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601)
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B950 @ 2.10GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Motherboard
Intel Sandy Bridge ID1E59
Memory
6GB DDR3 Dual 6034 Mbytes
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
LGD033A
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS547575A9E384 600GB
Keyboard
Normal Keyboard
Mouse
Techair 3D Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
4.04mbps download speed 0.54mbps upload speed
Other Info
Awesome Laptop.
wise reg cleaner
I don't have any other answers for your issue, but....
I do not want this thread to turn into another debate about Reg Cleaners, just take my word for it and search this forum for more on this issue.
Any and all so called Reg Cleaners can actually do more harm than good.
It is advisable to not use them at all. even Ccleaners.

You can install Windows to another partition or drive. You do not need to activate it as it will work for 30 days at least. This will add an entry to your Boot Config, but that can be fixed when you decide to get rid of the 2nd OS, Unless you are dual booting already some version of Linux. This can be trickier.

You might also be able to use VituralBox to install a Virtual Machine and try the program from there. This may or may not work. It depends on the Program itself. But can be worth a try.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
CPU
C2D E6600 2.4Ghz
Motherboard
Intel D965WH
Memory
4G Kingston KHX5400D2
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 570 HD SC (012-P3-1573-KR)
Sound Card
On-Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 226BW
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
2 x 250 Seagate Barracuda
2 x 500 Seagate Barracuda (Raid1)
PSU
Corsair TX750W
Case
In-Win C589
Cooling
Stock Intel Cooling
There is also a means of running Windows from a Virtual Hard Disc (VHD) and running from that. Requires no messing with existing HDDs or partitions. (However, you must use Ultimate when applying the image.)

Native VHD Boot to Windows 7 | Windows7hacker
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
Cooling
Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
Keyboard
Logitech G710+ Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
Other Info
Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
Ran the Repair/Install. What it did was have the badly behaving program close normally instead of going Blue. At least I have a few crash logs I can give to the techies.

I don't have Ultimate but Pro so the VHD wont help on that front. I'm going to give this a rest until I hear back from the Tech Support group then decide if I want to reinstall or not.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Crafted by Hand
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit Retail
CPU
Intel i7-4790K
Motherboard
ASRock Z97 Extreme6
Memory
2 x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 13800
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming
Sound Card
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ 3200
Screen Resolution
1440p
Hard Drives
Corsair 250GB SSD
WD RED 2 TB SATA
WD 500GB Green SATA
WD 1TB Black SATA x2
PSU
Corsair CMPSU 750TX
Case
Cooler Master 932 HAF
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
Roccat Ryos MK
Mouse
Roccat Kone XTD
Internet Speed
20 Mb - CenturyLink
Antivirus
Security Essentials
Browser
FireFox Latest
Other Info
Moving to Windows 10
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