Separating programs between Users

V1A2

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Hey guys,

My question is, where would I go to seperate programs from user to user? like if I wanted to install a program on one user, and then have it so i can install the same program again on a different user. Can I do all that one one computer? I thought I had an idea of what to do about it, but i was off.

Thanks for the help!
 

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Hi V1A2,

What's the reasoning behind this. I feel like i'm missing something in understanding you.
- Is it because you need different program settings for each user?
- You'd like it to run it as separate process? (windows 7 supports this)
- You wish to install different versions?
- Something Else?

What program is it? I may be able to test it for you and come up with something.

Basically it may depend on whether the program itself supports a dual installation, although you may be able to get around it with program visualization. Given that the registry settings are shared and you can probably see from either it if you look at the installed programs, your needs might be a little tricky. Anyway, I'll wait for your response and take it from there.

-Timo
 

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I wanted to install different versions of the same game on the computer, 1 completely updated version, and one version thats not completely up to date.

It is the Sims 3 , right now there is a compatibility issue going on and everyone is trying how to figure out how to play one program called the sims 3 create a world tool. To lightly explain the situation, the most resent expansion for the sims 3 required a patch download that caused the create a world program to crash every time you try to open it. We have found out that if you do not install the most resent expansion and do not install the most recent patch for the game, you could still run the create a world program fine. What some people want to know and try is creating 2 user accounts on your computer, setting program files so they are not shared between users, and try to install the sims 3 with all the most resent patches on one user, and then install again and have the non-updated version of the game running on the other user. I was wondering if it's possible to do something like this.
 

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Hi V1A2, Lucky for yoou I am a Sims player and know exactly what your on about.

Firstly, as far as I know No it is not possible to install a Program twice, due to Registry Limitations.

This leaves you with three options: Use Revo Uninstaller: Revo Uninstaller Pro - Uninstall software, remove programs, solve uninstall problems to remove it between test runs.

Dual boot Windows and install a copy on each with different Patch versions

Or! Run Sims 3 in a Virtual Machine, although I doubt that would work very well due to graphical limitations

Personally I have found that the Dual boot method works very well.

I know that there will be further questions depending on which one you decide to go for :) so please feel free to ask
 

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I got lucky and Thank you for responding Severedsolo!

I would go with the Dual boot'ing method, would you be able to give me a link to somewhere to set that up? or could you explain to me how I'd go about all this? I would really appreciate it.
 

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Ah, Unfortunately I'm not a sims 3 player. Good thing that severedsolo is here. :)

What about using VMware? I played oblivion and Bioshock through it a-ok and that wasy there is no reason to dual boot.
 

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I got lucky and Thank you for responding Severedsolo!

I would go with the Dual boot'ing method, would you be able to give me a link to somewhere to set that up? or could you explain to me how I'd go about all this? I would really appreciate it.

Not a problem :) I'm sure I can knock up a quick guide. Couple of quick questions:

Do you want both OS's to have access to the same User Profile? (My Documents etc. where CAW saves the files) I'm assuming thats a yes, because you want to import Worlds into the patched game right?

Can you please upload a snip of your Disk Management Screen? (Just type it into the Start Menu, Snipping Tool is there as well) so I can write a personalised guide for you.

Also, if you can fill out your system specs undder User CP at the top that would be very useful.

Please also be aware that because of Licensing limitations, the 2nd OS will only be available for 90 days (with Rearming) before it will have to be reinstalled, as technically it is against the EULA to dual boot with the same license, even though windows will probably allow it.

Ah, Unfortunately I'm not a sims 3 player. Good thing that severedsolo is here. :)

What about using VMware? I played oblivion and Bioshock through it a-ok and that wasy there is no reason to dual boot.

Actually, I do agree that a VM would be a good option. Unfortunately you need a pretty high end processor to manage it effectively, (which Tim is lucky enough to have ;)) If you fill out your system specs we can advise you whether a VM would work for you
 
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Here is the disk management, and i'll update my spec's right now
 

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:shock: Thats a mighty fine system you've got there ;)

Well I'm pleased to tell you that your Processer supports Hardware Assisted Virtualization. This means that there is every chance that Sims 3 will run happily in a VM. Of course it might not.... but I can't tell you until you try it. If you choose to.

Would you prefer to go down this route? Or would you rather I just write up a Dual Boot guide for you? (Which will definitely work)

I'm quite happy to write up either guide :) It really is up to you
 

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There are a number of solutions to this problem if you google for them. I'll list one here might work who knows. There are a few other so called solutions if you look for them.

I found the solution!!!!! I tried almost everything there was out there from updating my drivers, getting rid of all my downloaded content, unintstalling the game and re installing it... but then I found this out. All you have to do is disable Data Excecution Prevention (DEP) for The Sims 3.

FOR WINDOWS:
Go To Start - Settings - Control panel and select System. Click on the Advanced tab and in the preformance section click Settings. Click the tab for Data execution prevention and click the option to [Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select] go to browse then find where your game was installed and add TS3.EXE to the list. (The program may just be called TS3) Make sure it is an EXE extention (right click, go to properties and it will tell you) Try to add all versions that you have ( TS3, WA, HELS and Ambitions).
MAKE SURE YOU APPLY THE CHANGES AND REBOOT YOUR SYSTEM.

Source: http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-106643-sims-3-crashing
 

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i'm willing to go either way severed, which every way you deem best. And Chev65 i'm going to look into your solution also.
 

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Honestly I reckon the Dual Boot option is probably easiest. I really should have asked this before :o sorry. How did Windows 7 come on your machine? was it preinstalled? or do you have a disk?
 

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Hello and sorry, i've been busy working to stop by and check for a reply. I built my machine, so i have the windows 7 OS disc.
 

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thats alright :)

Great, I was really hoping you were going to say that. This makes my job alot easier.

Ok well I'm not going to be writing anything tonight, I'm up to my ears in Sims 3 Code at the moment working on a mod. I'll put the guide together tomorrow for you though, should be up by tomorrow evening (GMT+1)
 

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Ok here we go, Severedsolo's Easy Peasy guide to dual booting Windows 7 with Windows 7

I'm going to assume that as you build your own machine you already know how to install 7, if not then get a quick reminder here: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/20146-custom-install-windows-7-a.html

The first thing we need to do, is to make some space for your new installation and for the Save files. Now as the dual boot is going to need an Antivirus as well, I would suggest giving it about 90GB as a minimum to play with. We also need to give the Save Files 10GB (again this should be more than enough, but we need to be sure)

Before Starting please take Backups just in case. Nothing SHOULD go wrong, but occasionally (very rarely) Partitioning fails.

Print this guide before you start, as you won't have access to it while Installing.

1) Open up Disk Management

2) Right click your "C" Drive and click Shrink Volume

3)Wait while it checks available space

4) When it asks how much to shrink it by put this number in: 102400 (thats 100GB in MB) then click Next

5) When its done you should see a section called "Unallocated Space 100GB"

6) Right Click the Unallocated Space and then click "New Simple Volume"

7) When it asks for how much space to give it put this number in: 92160

8) When it asks for a label type something like "Dual Boot" (no quotes) (this is handy for later as we need to remember which is which)

9) When its done (it can take a little while) Right Click the Remaining 10GB Unallocated space and click New Simple Volume, this time give it whatevers left, and give it a label of "CAW Saves" (no quotes)

10) Stick your Win 7 DVD in and Reboot, boot from the DVD and go through the Installation process, make sure you install Win 7 to the "Dual Boot" partition and NOT any others, or you will wipe out your windows installation.

11) After the 2nd reboot you will see two options when you boot "Windows 7" and "Windows 7" the top one is your dual boot, select it and press enter (It will do that automatically anyway if you dont select anything for 30 seconds)

12) When it reaches the "Enter your product key" screen UNCHECK "Automatically Activate Windows when i'm online" and leave the product key blank.

13) Once Windows has booted, the First thing you need to do is install an Antivirus. I recommend MSE as it's free. http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

14) Next, we need to relocate your User Files. Open up Computer, and see what label it has given "CAW saves" (it should be D:, E: or F:) then go to your User Profile (C:\Users\<username>) Right click on My Documents and then click Properties, click the Location tab and change the path to (whatever letter it gave CAW files):\Documents

15) you can do this with the other Folders too if you want, but it isn't strictly necessary.

16) At this point you can change the amount of time you have to choose the OS on the Dual Boot menu if you want, type msconfig into the Startmenu and click the only option that comes up. then click the boot tab and change "Timeout" to whatever you want, I have mine at 5, so I'm not waiting around forever to boot. Also you can set your other Windows (Main Windows) as Default if you want from here too.

17) Boot into your other copy of Windows, and go Computer>CAW Saves double click on Documents. It will probably tell you that you don't have permission. Click Continue. this will give you full access rights to the Folder (which will be needed later)

18) Install CAW and Sims 3 to the Dual boot copy of Windows. CAW should automatically save its files to the CAW Saves\Documents Folder (there is a very good reason we want it on a seperate partition, otherwise it won't be able to get permission due to the Other copy of Windows.

Remember by the way, that any Worlds Created With CAW will need to be relocated to the Sims 3 folder (Documents\Electronic Arts\Sims 3 I think) to be loaded into the game

I think thats everything. Just one last thing, Your Dual Boot copy of Windows is only good for 30 days, after which it will prompt you to activate windows. To get around this, when your time runs out (or is close to running out) open an elevated Command Prompt (right click, Run as Administrator) and type in: slmgr.vbs –rearm then hit enter. You can do this twice, (giving you 90 days before it needs to be reinstalled, but reinstalling won't wipe out your CAW saves)

I'm going to be away on Holiday for two weeks, but if you have any follow up questions please ask. I know that Tim will be more than happy to answer them for you :)
 
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@V1A2,

In addition to severedsolo's excellent post, you may elect to install an earlier version of windows that you have a legit license key for. If you do this, you will probably find that you can't boot into windows 7 until after you run a repair on it with the Win7 DVD or USB installation media. This is because earlier versions of windows don't know that Win7 exists. If you decide to do this, then please let us know so we can show you what it involves before moving forward. Just a heads up in case you try it.

In regards to the virtual machine solution that I offered earlier. I always use these unless I'm playing high end games that I really want perfect graphics for). You would need enough RAM to run the game and your PC (because it's like two computers in one).

Some free virtual machines are:
- Windows Virtual Machine
- VMWARE workstation (requires registration)
 

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I really appreciate the Help guys, I've been pretty busy at work and i'm going to give this a go come tomorrow when I get off. I think I have a copy of windows XP floating around the room. But thanks again guys I'll keep you updated on how things work.
 

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Good luck mate.
 

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