Sharing RAM with Graphics

daniel101

daniel101

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Hello.
Previously when i was with XP.
i was able to share my RAM with my graphics, i had 128Mb on board graphics and was able to share my RAM with it to make it 512Mb, this was done through my BIOS.
Since i installed Windows 7. It is like it has compltely changed my BIOS user interfacce, and i havnt a clue on how to do it now.
Any ideas?
Dan
 

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ASUS M2N-MX SE PLUS X Series
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Windows 7 Ultimate Professional 6.01.7100
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ @ 2600 MHz
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ASUS M2N-MX SE PLUS X Series
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2048 MB (2 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )
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NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (512Mb)
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You're referring to your AGP Aperture. It can generally be changed in your BIOS but Win7 would NOT have changed that. There are software tools that will allow you to change your aperture but they're not advised. It's preferable to do it in the BIOS.
 

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daniel101 said:
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Since i installed Windows 7. It is like it has compltely changed my BIOS user interfacce, and i havnt a clue on how to do it now.
Any ideas?
Dan
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lol thats impossible , the Installer or the OS itself cannot update/flash the bios causing it to change the cmos setup screen o.O. unless you installed a software that came with your mobo that updates bios automatically (which I doubt)... I'm interested to know how that happened :P, post back if you have any info.

and its not the AGP Aperture size :P...
its somewhere on Integrated Chipset Menu
Mercurial~
 

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Windows 7 32bit RTM
My apologies, i mus int of looked hard enough, i found it hiding away in the advanced bios section, thanks anyway
 

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ASUS M2N-MX SE PLUS X Series
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Windows 7 Ultimate Professional 6.01.7100
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ @ 2600 MHz
Motherboard
ASUS M2N-MX SE PLUS X Series
Memory
2048 MB (2 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (512Mb)
Sound Card
nForce 430 (MCP61) High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Monitor Type : S/T 97P/96P - 20 inches
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 @ 85 Hz
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ST3160815A (160 GB)
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Digital Master 908
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Type of mouse : USB Input Device
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20 MBit
although it still doesnt answer why the User interface in the bios has changed, cause i specificly remember what it looked like when i had XP. i didnt go into it after i installed Win 7 and it has changed...hmmm
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS M2N-MX SE PLUS X Series
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate Professional 6.01.7100
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ @ 2600 MHz
Motherboard
ASUS M2N-MX SE PLUS X Series
Memory
2048 MB (2 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (512Mb)
Sound Card
nForce 430 (MCP61) High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Monitor Type : S/T 97P/96P - 20 inches
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 @ 85 Hz
Hard Drives
ST3160815A (160 GB)
Case
Digital Master 908
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Type of mouse : USB Input Device
Internet Speed
20 MBit
daniel101 said:
although it still doesnt answer why the User interface in the bios has changed, cause i specificly remember what it looked like when i had XP. i didnt go into it after i installed Win 7 and it has changed...hmmm
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Lol your bios hasnt changed.
 

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Windozer 7 - 7068
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Unkown.
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Intel integrated X3100 (yeah, laugh)
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Conexant High definition Audio.
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14.1 inch laptop display with 17inch CRT as secondary.
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160gb toshiba drive. (chills at around 65 degrees C on a cool day.)
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Battery.
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Laptop.
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Whats that? I own a HP.
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Laptop standard.
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Logitech cordless.
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Depends on the weather. (no, literally.) 5mbs-7mbs line.
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hmmm i would say agp aperture size has any advantage imho
 

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Win Xp/7
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Asus A7N8X-X nForce2
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1GB DDR
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Asus AH HD3450 AGP
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Integrated
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CRT :)
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80GB WD Caviar
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300W
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1Mbit
Ummm....

Y'all are forgetting that some mobo manufacturers had / have utilities that you installed in older OSs, particularly XP that allowed monitoring of system devices - for an older MSI board I had the utility could not only monitor my BIOS and such but actually update the BIOS from inside of Windows - so it is very possible that the OP is correct about the BIOS having been updated, and is just mistaken as to the methodology on how it got updated.

Daniel, 7 cannot update the BIOS. However, manufacturers have previously included utilities that may have updated your BIOS when you were still running XP....
 

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Now just a thought, and also kind of question of my own, but if he did a fresh install and did a format wouldnt the bios flash be lost?
 

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imprtkid04 said:
Now just a thought, and also kind of question of my own, but if he did a fresh install and did a format wouldnt the bios flash be lost?
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No. The BIOS is a component of the motherboard. It resides in flash memory and cannot easily be overwritten by accident. Formatting and installing an OS affects the Hard Drive, only.
 

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ASUS Rampage Extreme Rev2
Memory
8GB (4x2) Corsair Dominator DDR3
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2x Radeon R390X [8GB]
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SupremeFX X-Fi
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4x WD 2TB (8TB+ Total)
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Hi all
Note that the OS CAN and DOES make BIOS calls while booting (and even after it's booted).

The BIOS is only another "micro OS" itself. Now W7 (or any other OS) can't make any changes in ROM of course some settings in the BIOS could be temporarily changed for the life of that Boot.

I'm not sure how the code works as you'd have to "disassemble" the BIOS code to see exactly what's happening but it *could* be possible that some "start up parameters" temporarily change the standard Bios parameters.

Some while ago (haven't seen it for a while but it could still exist) Windows used to be able to use "Shadow memory" where the BIOS code was copied into the Windows Low (or High - can't remember now) protected memory area since the Internal RAM of the computer was actually faster than the speed of the ROM access.

If W7 uses this type of technique it COULD alter values to suit itself unless the user explicitly sets values at boot.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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An OS can boot and alter the BIOS? Sorry but, no way. Not anymore, we have Intel TX, Windows 95 and Chernobyl to thank for that.

It will address that shadow ram you're referring to but only after the BIOS puts it there. Those 'registers' tell the OS what's plugged in and how it's configured. At no time does the OS actually WRITE or ALTER the BIOS itself. That's simply not accurate.
 

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Custom Build/Mod
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel QX9650 Extreme 4.0 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage Extreme Rev2
Memory
8GB (4x2) Corsair Dominator DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
2x Radeon R390X [8GB]
Sound Card
SupremeFX X-Fi
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2408WFP 26" Panel
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
4x WD 2TB (8TB+ Total)
2x Crucial SSD 128GB (RAID-0)
1x LG Blu-ray read/write
1x Phillips LightScribe DVD read/write
PSU
Corsair HX1000
Case
CoolerMaster - Cosmos S
Cooling
Custom Liquid - 320mm rad w/ 3x 80mm fans, CPU/NB/SB Blocks
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminater Pro
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
Fractional T1 - 125Mbps
Antivirus
ESET Security Suite / Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Cyberfox Intel x64
Other Info
OC'd to 5.0GHz @ 44c under full load
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