Should I shutdown, soon after Windows Updates are installed...?

[scottls59901]

I have Let me choose which updates to Install selected (I Never want Previews, as I'm not into Beta testing...)-

-The updates don't install until After the next days Cold startup, and I loose a day getting them Trusted... (Usually takes 4 long Reboots..., then IE11 4times).

-Then the same thing again after the 2nd days Cold Startup.

My question-
I'd like to maybe save a day by shutdown after Updates are installed (wait 1hr, as Lots of HD activity).
Should I reboot once first, or...?
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BTW- My old Bitdefender IS AV (A Hassle getting it Completely Uninstalled!), blocked... Many Updates (Silverlight, Word...), and I started getting them again after installing WSA.
I will be installing ZoneAlarm Pro firewall (blocks Ransomware too!).

 

[mrjimphelps]

The only time you need to shutdown (and restart) after Windows Updates are installed is when Windows tells you that it is needed.

Although there is generally no harm in delaying the reboot till later, I think you will find that things will go better if you do the reboot as soon as the updates have finished. For example, I don't think you will need to do several cold boots. (I have almost never had to do that after running Windows updates.)

 

[scottls59901]

The only time you need to shutdown (and restart) after Windows Updates are installed is when Windows tells you that it is needed.

Although there is generally no harm in delaying the reboot till later, I think you will find that things will go better if you do the reboot as soon as the updates have finished. For example, I don't think you will need to do several cold boots. (I have almost never had to do that after running Windows updates.)

This did Not answer my question!-
I always Reboot Now, when prompted.

Q-After updates are installed- Can I Shutdown/Reboot immediately to save a day?

 

[Ranger4]

Q-After updates are installed- Can I Shutdown/Reboot immediately to save a day?

Not quite sure what you mean.

If a restart is not requested after installing updates then rebooting will not save any time at all, so why reboot if it's not requested.

In fact if no reboot is requested then computer operation is exactly the same as if there were no updates installed.

 

[scottls59901]

Not quite sure what you mean.

If a restart is not requested after installing updates then rebooting will not save any time at all, so why reboot if it's not requested.

In fact if no reboot is requested then computer operation is exactly the same as if there were no updates installed.

I don't know why you keep referring to rebooting or not, that is Not my question (Sorry!- I confused the issue, by mentioning should I reboot again Before shutdown/restart)?

Windows Updates don't fully finish installing (or any other file maintenance- CCleaner, Update cleanup, ...), until After the next 2 cold startups.

I was trying to save a day, but have yet to find anyone who has tried it?

- Would a Moderator... Please move this to General Discussion!?

 

[Ranger4]

Windows Updates don't fully finish installing (or any other file maintenance- CCleaner, Update cleanup, ...), until After the next 2 cold startups.

Where did you get that information from, as I have never heard of it before. If you use that information then a freshly installed software program would not work until you have done 2 cold start ups & it would be impossible to get an OS like Windows 7 to work as a cold start would not work if it has not properly installed until after the 2 cold start.

 

[Barman58]

I come from a Professional Computing environment so treat updates the same way I always have - Never automatic, Always manual - The process is ...

Set any update that is present to manual - To give me control

Reboot the system - check that the system is working correctly, (It may be weeks between reboots, normally), and this check proves that any issue that is present later is due to the update

Run the manual updates - when possible one at a time, If you have an issue you'll at least know what Likely caused it

Reboot the system - check that you have not broken the system

Repeat with next update until none remain.

Most updates will not requirean reboot, Microsoft, (and others), got fed up with the complaints about the reboot, which is really essential for any system item and most not system updates

 

[scottls59901]

I come from a Professional Computing environment so treat updates the same way I always have - Never automatic, Always manual - The process is ...

Set any update that is present to manual - To give me control

Reboot the system - check that the system is working correctly, (It may be weeks between reboots, normally), and this check proves that any issue that is present later is due to the update

Run the manual updates - when possible one at a time, If you have an issue you'll at least know what Likely caused it

Reboot the system - check that you have not broken the system

Repeat with next update until none remain.

Most updates will not requirean reboot, Microsoft, (and others), got fed up with the complaints about the reboot, which is really essential for any system item and most not system updates

It could be that my in7 Pro 32-bit is the slow-down...?
I have a few expensive old XP programs that I want to set as Default (Adobe Photoshop 4.2...), and are Not compatible with Win7 Pro 64-bit.

If you know of someway to make 64-bit recognize them as Default, I'd upgrade to 64-bit!?

 

[Barman58]

Although you cannot run a 64Bit application on a 32Bit windows, all 64Bit windows should be able to run 32Bit programs without the user doing anything, this would suggest that the issue is with the Photoshop itself it may be possible to get it to run properly on the 64Bit OS if it was installed using compatibility mode for Windows XP, (which was the current OS when PS 4.2 was released.

I don't think this would be worthwhile unless you had other reasons to use 64 Bit Windows, but looking at your spec, the OS is hampering the system so I would be tempted to try the emulation method as you could always reload it as you have now (maybe use Macrium Reflect free to image your current install so it's simple to go back) - but it's a lot of work potentially and would depend on the other application which are blocking the upgrade to 64 Bit

 

[scottls59901]

Although you cannot run a 64Bit application on a 32Bit windows, all 64Bit windows should be able to run 32Bit programs without the user doing anything, this would suggest that the issue is with the Photoshop itself it may be possible to get it to run properly on the 64Bit OS if it was installed using compatibility mode for Windows XP, (which was the current OS when PS 4.2 was released.

I don't think this would be worthwhile unless you had other reasons to use 64 Bit Windows, but looking at your spec, the OS is hampering the system so I would be tempted to try the emulation method as you could always reload it as you have now (maybe use Macrium Reflect free to image your current install so it's simple to go back) - but it's a lot of work potentially and would depend on the other application which are blocking the upgrade to 64 Bit

I use Macrium Reflect 7.1 (blocks Ransomware!, and a boot CD), and it is a good idea to make a 32-bit backup first!

My current system has been through Many in-place reinstalls, and then an iffy clone upgrade to SSD (probably Lots of invalid Registry...!). AkA- GIGO!

Instead of Another upgrade- I'd just as soon do a clean install, and forget hassling with PS 4.1...!
Q?- The main thing I use PS for, is saving/reading .jpg images/adjusting size (from my scanner/internet).
Do you know of a simple 64-bit program, that the system would accept as Default for .jpg...?
I feel that full blown Photoshop would be overkill (do they have a PS lite...?)?

 

[Barman58]

Probably a good plan. I know how we get used to a particular product or way of working, even when a clean slate would be best.
There is an free open source bitmap editor called Gimp, that has many of the features of your Photoshop, and a lot more, and is well worth a look.
For your day to day cropping and such, I would actually recommend another free open source option Irfanview which can be added to with plugins, also free, and set to call Gimp if you ever need to pixel edit an image. Irfanview is a file manager for images that opens a folder of images in thumbnail view one at a time and you can scroll through, and allows you to perform crops and other functions and can do this in a batch it includes a companion app to display the whole contents of a folder in thumbnail form, but this is less useful now that this is included in windows

Am on phone so no links included but they are well known but a search will show many hits, go to the developers site and download from there. If I recall both are .org addresses