Simple File Sharing. No Go. Need Help.

[kirkm]

I've tried to set another drive on my Win7 machine to Network with XP. I have a couple of folders
already which work fine. But this latest one dings at me with "...is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.... when I try to Open it in XP. *******s, aren't they ? !!

It is OK is the Network left hand column in Win 7. SHows there correctly and lets me access it.
I've tried to Duplicate everything as set on the one that works... I notice Properties-Sharing on that one is
coloured, the new one isn't but there's no colour-me-now option.

Have Googled and fluffed around for hours, slowly going mad. I tried the "credentials' thing but as far as I could tell none are set.

Are there some things I can try? Thanks for any help

 

[2xg]

Hi there,

Do you have Workgroup setup in your network? Have you added the Everyone group in the shared folder?
Also, create a duplicate User Name and Password on the problem computers?

 

[kirkm]

Hi 2xg, sorry for delay but I was trying to get a bit further ahead with new info... but no luck.

Yes I have a workgroup (called mshome). I can see the folders there n Xp NetworkPlaces too... but not use them.

I DON"T have a username/password for the ones that do work, and really would like to keep it like that. I guess my big stumbling block is whay do some folders work, and some don't. Are there different "Everyone's " ?

>Have you added the Everyone group in the shared folder?

I think so, "Everyone" shows under Computer - Right Click Drive - Properties - Sharing - Advanced Sharing - Permissions - Group Or User Name. Then all 3 Allows are ticked.

 

[2xg]

For troubleshooting purpose can you please do this?

I DON"T have a username/password for the ones that do work, and really would like to keep it like that

Also, have you tried accessing the shared folder in question by using the computer's IP Address?

What type of Security/Firewall program(s) are you using on both computers? Have you tried disabling the Firewall?

 

[kirkm]

The XP machine has AVG, Win7 has MSE. I've no firewall on either other than what comes with the OS. I haven't attempted to disable it (and wouldn't know how to). Happy to try that if you tell me what to do - and on which/both machines? As for IPs I know how ping something from the DOS screen (and suspect a hit as Explorer can see then) but don't know how to expand that method to a drive or folder.

But all that aside, what would make another folder work and not this one? My thinking is idf any drive is being shared much of the necessary 'workings' must be correct ?

 

[Tookeri]

In explorer try \\ipadress\sharename example: \\192.168.1.5\myfiles

 

[kirkm]

Doing this gives the exact same result as double-clicking in MyNetworkPlaces. Ones that work still work and those that don't bring up the same "is not accessible. You might not have permission blah blah...
Looks like calling it this way has added another icon under Mshome, called the IP Address and is identical to the previous one called Win7-pc. Is that usual behahviour ?

 

[2xg]

How to disable Firewall in Windows 7: Turn Windows Firewall on or off - Windows Help

How to disable Firewall in Windows XP: How can I turn on or turn off the firewall in Windows XP Service Pack 2 or later versions?

Try accessing the shared folders vice versa and see if you're able to do it. If not, please provide us ipconfig/all coming from the Windows 7 and XP computers for review. Here's a tutorial: http://www.sevenforums.com/network-...ing-your-networking-thread-2.html#post2490995

 

[kirkm]

Hi, I turned OFF the firewall in XP and I still could not access the shared folders. So then I turned OFF the Win7 firewall. No change. So then turned them both OFF and still nothing. The same ones that work, still work and the others don't.
So just about to read the instructions and get the ipconfig/all to you.

 

[kirkm]

I presume I paste the outputs here ? Apologies if wrong...

XP


Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Kirk McMillan>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Kirk
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-7D-C2-39-B1
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.20.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.20.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.20.1
192.168.20.2

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft TV/Video Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 0.1.0.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Kirk McMillan>







WIN7
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Kirk>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Win7-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82566DM Gigabit Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-58-BA-11-3B
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::1876:96b4:e90:8812%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.20.102(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.20.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234886488
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-34-54-6E-00-15-58-BA-11-3B

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.20.1
192.168.20.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{EEB0363F-BFCA-41A7-92C7-7BA74146177A}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:9d38:90d7:8e2:f33:3f57:eb99(Prefer
red)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::8e2:f33:3f57:eb99%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Users\Kirk>

 

[2xg]

You did great kirkm.

Might be worth it to enable DHCP (Auto IP) on both computers Local Area connection settings, you may always switch it back to Manual or Static IP later on if it didn't help. Make sure that you select Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) and not the Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6) from this Tutorial.
How to Change Your IP Settings in Windows 7 / Configure DHCP

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Should be Yes

Test your connections after.

 

[kirkm]

2xg, I'll really reluctant to do that because there are 5 computers here and everything works except a new folder share with Win7. If I break something the whole shebang might fall apart and I'd never get it all working again.
I did look at win7 Local Area Connection properties and v4 is in a Fixed IP and v5 on Auto.

For I test I setup a new share on another XP machine. I just went into the drive in Explorer, RClick properties, clicked Sharing . Ticked share this folder, and Allow network users to change... then Exited.

That folder is now assessable on every other machine Even the Win7 one.

These are the same steps I used in Win7 but does not work the same. The folder can be seen and accessed in Win 7 Explorer-Network, but not any other computer. They see it, but cannot access it.

As I keep saying I have other folders in win7 that can be accessed - all within this same dhcp/IP/or whatever else involved setting. So shares do work within my current environment - why can I not add another is the question. There must be an answer - just need to find it!

I understand you want me to change certain things to help diagnosis and I will do as a last resort.

One more question, If I right click a folder/drive where sharing works, then click the sharing tab there's a button called Share which pulsates to blue. On the one that doesn't work, that button is greyed out and instead one called Advanced Sharing pulsates blue.
Another thing I just noticed is - the drive I want to share has one folder. In the Explorer tree LH side that folder shows a padlock on it. It's the only one like that. Any sort of clue ?

 

[2xg]

No worries, just trying to give you some troubleshooting tips.

See if this guide will help you remove the lock on the folder.
Remove Lock Icon on Folder in Windows 7