Solid-state drives lose data if left without power for just a few days

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Storage. It's not a sexy topic. But everyone uses it in some way or another. You have iPhones, you have computers. Everyone knows how important a person's data is. But it doesn't just "disappear."

Or does it?

New research suggests that newer solid-state hard drives, which are faster and offer better performance, are vulnerable to an inherent flaw -- they lose data loss when they're left dormant in storage for periods of time where the temperature isn't properly regulated.

The worrying factor is that the period of time can be weeks, months, but even in some circumstances -- just a few days.

Solid-state drives are better than regular mechanical hard drives, which are slow and sluggish. But unless they're battered around, smashed, or poured in acid, they pretty much last forever.

Read more: Solid-state drives lose data if left without power for just a few days | ZDNet
 

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Noticed the article didn't really specify the type or construction of the SSDs in question. Regardless, the age old practice of backing up one's data on a regular basis is still a necessary one, no matter what the data storage media is. Some things should never change.
 

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This is worriying... is there something confirmed about this? That would probably mean I will stick on HDD's until the end of humanity... or they fix this crap...
 

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I'm thinking most ssd's are not used for storage in the first place.

I do not believe that a 9F degree change will have that much effect on a ssd unless you are some one selling hard drives.

My ssd's have that big of temp change in one day with the power off and I haven't had any problems. I have ssd's I use for backup sit on a shelf for weeks with 50 deg F swings in temp and still no problems.

It's hard for me to believe that companies like Corsair, Intel, Kingston and Samsung jut to name a few didn't look into this so called problem.

If one turns of the power to their computer and goes on vacation and they loose everything. B/S. Their would of been stories all over the net.
 

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Yep. Just went on vaca. 9 days, all power off at power strips, 3 PCs with SSDs. All good upon return.
Samsung Pro SSDs: 1 user says GOOD!
End of story ;)
 

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Yea I shut down every night and all programs and files are on c drive
I don't use my laptop very often and it has everything on the c drive nothing ever came up missing :/

Ultimately I use hdd's for secondary or third back ups just because I have a couple to spare.

I'm not one to move the entire user folder to another drive or ssd for that matter.
The only thing I care about is personal files everything else can be re-installed.
 

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I just checked a 80 gig ssd drive that was not connected to anything for 1 year . all good ..
 

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ZDnet isnt a reliable site there downloads section doesnt even work and with this article i laugh, if it was tru im pretty sure it would have hit CNN or BBC news sites cos its like the millenium bug for SSD's
 

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Well I went away for vacation for 3 days but my laptop's either M.2 or MSATA is fine. I think the title of the article is pretty misleading as the article says this mostly applies to enterprise grade SSDs and the article itself doesn't say anything about lasting only a few days.
 

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Yea I always feel dirty after visiting ZDNet.
 

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I went away for 2 weeks. Came back, fired up PC with Samsung EVO SSD and nothing missing.

I don't own any Enterprise drives, but it just sounds like another exaggerated article from ZDNet.
 

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Doesn't look like ZDnet made anything up, IMO they are just providing information, ref. the link to the korelogic article.

The Joint Electron Device Engineering Council (JEDEC) defines standards for the microelectronics industry, including standards for SSDs \\ For client application SSDs, the powered-off retention period standard is one year while enterprise application SSDs have a powered-off retention period of three months.

I do not expect my ssd's content to evaporise overnight, but seems the old HD concept has a very bright future as highcapacity \ longterm \ lowprice storage.
 

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Hey all, hopefully my 850 pro wont lose data as well.

Though, is it considered enterprise or consumer grade SSD? Anyone know?
 

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In the early days of SSDs there was a lot of concern about the longevity of the drives. People were talking about them only lasting a relatively short time before failing. There was lots of chatter about how to limit writes to extend life.

Now that SSDs have a track record it has become evident that those early predictions of failure were somewhat overrated. SSDs last at least as long as spinning disks in most cases. Many people no longer bother with minimal write strategies.

That is the grain of salt to be taken when reading any technical articles like this.
Do SSDs fail - yep.
Do HDDs fail - yep.
Do we run down the street screaming like our hair is on fire? ---- user's choice.
 

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In the early days of SSDs there was a lot of concern about the longevity of the drives. People were talking about them only lasting a relatively short time before failing. There was lots of chatter about how to limit writes to extend life.

Now that SSDs have a track record it has become evident that those early predictions of failure were somewhat overrated. SSDs last at least as long as spinning disks in most cases. Many people no longer bother with minimal write strategies.

That is the grain of salt to be taken when reading any technical articles like this.
Do SSDs fail - yep.
Do HDDs fail - yep.
Do we run down the street screaming like our hair is on fire? ---- user's choice.

Exactly! With any storage media comes risk of data loss. These articles aren't telling us anything we don't already know.
 

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Hey all, hopefully my 850 pro wont lose data as well.

Though, is it considered enterprise or consumer grade SSD? Anyone know?

The EVO and PRO SSDs are both consumer. They're certainly not aimed at the Enterprise market.
 

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This is not at all my experience since 2008. Each of my 10 SSDs have an unused time of 6 month each year when I am on the other side of the Atlantic and I never lost a bit. Several of those SSDs are external disks and contain 'data' if you want so (VMware Player folders and backup data). A couple of my older Gen1 external SSDs get used so infrequently that I have to go on a search hunt each time I want to use them.
 

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2x HP w2207
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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
This is not at all my experience since 2008. Each of my 10 SSDs have an unused time of 6 month each year when I am on the other side of the Atlantic and I never lost a bit. Several of those SSDs are external disks and contain 'data' if you want so (VMware Player folders and backup data). A couple of my older Gen1 external SSDs get used so infrequently that I have to go on a search hunt each time I want to use them.

I wish I had that problem ;)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 ProAMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Ve...G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-P...2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 10 Pro
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics
Motherboard
ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM D
Graphics Card(s)
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
Sound Card
Motherboard Built in
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer R240HY bidx 23.8-Inch IPS HDMI DVI VGA (1920 x 1080) Wi
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
500 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM (Virtual Machines)
PSU
CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
Cooling
220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
Keyboard
Wired Dell keyboard
Mouse
Wireless Logitech mouse
Internet Speed
250mb down, 30mb up
Antivirus
Panda Cloud Antivirus
Browser
Chrome-ish x64
Other Info
Your awesome for reading this.
Debunked: Your SSD won't lose data if left unplugged after all

If you’re in a panic because the Internet told you that your shiny new SSD may lose data in “just a few days” when stored in a hot room, take a chill pill—it’s apparently all a huge misunderstanding, according to the man who wrote the original presentation all the fear is based on.

In a conversation with Kent Smith of Seagate and Alvin Cox, the Seagate engineer who wrote the presentation that set the Internet abuzz, PCWorld was told we’re all just reading it wrong.

“People have misunderstood the data that they’re looking at,” Smith said.

Source

A Guy
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 10 Home x64INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHzHyperX Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MhzEVGA GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 1GB 128-Bit...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Home x64
CPU
INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P7P55D
Memory
HyperX Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 1GB 128-Bit GDDR5
Monitor(s) Displays
LG 32MA68HY 32" IPS
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Evo 120GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache
PSU
ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W
Case
ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion
Cooling
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's
Internet Speed
85 + Mbps
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Vivaldi
From my post #4

I do not believe that a 9F degree change will have that much effect on a ssd unless you are some one selling hard drives.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pr...Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
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