Strange window/icon behavior?

ajm786

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I was doing a fresh install of Win7 x64 Ultimate, and I was wondering if anyone noticed this issue that I've noticed regarding Win7. The windows, while maximizing and minimizing, stutter/pause for a millisecond before actually maximizing/minimizing. Vista x64 does not do this; the maximize/minimize animation is smooth. This happens on both my work rig and my home rig, which have both OSes installed as a dual boot.

Another thing I noticed are the way the folders icons look in Win7 as compared to Vista. In Vista, all the folder icon edges are smooth, but in Win7, I can actually see jaggies around the edges of the folders. :confused: I have sitting in front of me two computers, one running Vista x64 and the other Win7, and I tell you, I can clearly see jaggies around the bottom edges of a folder icon on Win7. Here is a screenshot. Check out the circled areas.

jaggyicon.jpg


And just for the record, I have all the latest driver updates/what not. Plus, the hardware is different between 3 different rigs, and they all exhibit these issues. And just for the record, I already went into System Properties>Advanced>Performance Settings and chose the bullet to "Adjust for best appearance". This makes no discernible difference.

Thanks!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
Core Quad Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5K Deluxe
Memory
8GB Corsair PC6400 DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 260GTX 216
Sound Card
X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VP201b & VX922
Hard Drives
HD103SJ, WD7500AAKS, WD5000KS, HD160JJ, SP1614C
PSU
Corsair 620HX PSU
Case
CMStacker 830
Cooling
Stacker 830
What are your settings for 'custom' visual effects? You could try looking at some of those and see what works best for you.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
Motherboard
INTEL/D975XBX2
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 914v
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected
PSU
Rocketfish 700 W
Case
G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avira Internet Security
Browser
IE 11
Other Info
ATI HDMI Audio
What are your settings for 'custom' visual effects? You could try looking at some of those and see what works best for you.

I tried all the 3 options above the 'Custom' visual effects, and this did not change anything. In addition, I'm not sure which one of the options effects the window icons. As a matter of fact, just for the heck of it, I disabled everything, and it didn't make any difference on the icon.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
Core Quad Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5K Deluxe
Memory
8GB Corsair PC6400 DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 260GTX 216
Sound Card
X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VP201b & VX922
Hard Drives
HD103SJ, WD7500AAKS, WD5000KS, HD160JJ, SP1614C
PSU
Corsair 620HX PSU
Case
CMStacker 830
Cooling
Stacker 830
In addition, this icon behavior is exhibited whether physically at the machine, or through an RDC, so it's not an Aero effect or dependence.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
Core Quad Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5K Deluxe
Memory
8GB Corsair PC6400 DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 260GTX 216
Sound Card
X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VP201b & VX922
Hard Drives
HD103SJ, WD7500AAKS, WD5000KS, HD160JJ, SP1614C
PSU
Corsair 620HX PSU
Case
CMStacker 830
Cooling
Stacker 830
Is you screen resolution set correctly?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
Motherboard
INTEL/D975XBX2
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 914v
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected
PSU
Rocketfish 700 W
Case
G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avira Internet Security
Browser
IE 11
Other Info
ATI HDMI Audio
Absolutely. The screen resolution is set to 1600x1200, which is the native resolution of the LCD.

I should mention that no matter what type of screen, I can reproduce this.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
Core Quad Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5K Deluxe
Memory
8GB Corsair PC6400 DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 260GTX 216
Sound Card
X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VP201b & VX922
Hard Drives
HD103SJ, WD7500AAKS, WD5000KS, HD160JJ, SP1614C
PSU
Corsair 620HX PSU
Case
CMStacker 830
Cooling
Stacker 830
Sheesh .... I'm at a loss for this. You said 'fresh' installation with Win7 x64 Ultimate.
Is that an RTM download (or DVD) and from where did you get it? Is this an upgrade or clean install?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
Motherboard
INTEL/D975XBX2
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 914v
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected
PSU
Rocketfish 700 W
Case
G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avira Internet Security
Browser
IE 11
Other Info
ATI HDMI Audio
Sheesh .... I'm at a loss for this. You said 'fresh' installation with Win7 x64 Ultimate.
Is that an RTM download (or DVD) and from where did you get it? Is this an upgrade or clean install?

Brand new clean installation on a brand new 1TB Samsung HDD. This is Windows 7 x64 Ultimate. I got it from Staples (DVD). I also installed the RTM from a download at work, and it exhibits the same issue.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
Core Quad Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5K Deluxe
Memory
8GB Corsair PC6400 DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 260GTX 216
Sound Card
X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VP201b & VX922
Hard Drives
HD103SJ, WD7500AAKS, WD5000KS, HD160JJ, SP1614C
PSU
Corsair 620HX PSU
Case
CMStacker 830
Cooling
Stacker 830
I have Pro x64 and I do not notice the distortion that you are showing in your screen shots. That is really weird... The only thing I could think of is something is wrong with either your graphics settings in windows, or with your video drivers.

If you use nVidia, then you can turn on anti-aliasing for windows and that would most likely fix it. You may be able to do the same with ATI, but I am not sure because I have not used ATI in many many years lol.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 OC'd 3.06Ghz
Motherboard
Abit IP-35Pro
Memory
Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1066 2x1GB
Graphics Card(s)
eVGA GeForce 8800GT 512mb DDR3
Monitor(s) Displays
Envision 22" HD
Hard Drives
WD 160GB
I have Pro x64 and I do not notice the distortion that you are showing in your screen shots. That is really weird... The only thing I could think of is something is wrong with either your graphics settings in windows, or with your video drivers.

If you use nVidia, then you can turn on anti-aliasing for windows and that would most likely fix it. You may be able to do the same with ATI, but I am not sure because I have not used ATI in many many years lol.

Tried that. I added an AA rule to DWM and Explorer.exe, turned on AA to 4x, restarted Windows, and neither had an effect.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
Core Quad Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5K Deluxe
Memory
8GB Corsair PC6400 DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 260GTX 216
Sound Card
X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VP201b & VX922
Hard Drives
HD103SJ, WD7500AAKS, WD5000KS, HD160JJ, SP1614C
PSU
Corsair 620HX PSU
Case
CMStacker 830
Cooling
Stacker 830
Again, I should point out, this happens on both ATI and nVidia hardware alike.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
Core Quad Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5K Deluxe
Memory
8GB Corsair PC6400 DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 260GTX 216
Sound Card
X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VP201b & VX922
Hard Drives
HD103SJ, WD7500AAKS, WD5000KS, HD160JJ, SP1614C
PSU
Corsair 620HX PSU
Case
CMStacker 830
Cooling
Stacker 830
Ok, update. Regarding the minimize/maximize issue. I know I wasn't the only guy crazy enough to notice this.

Again, on Vista, the animation is completely smooth. On Windows 7, there is DEFINITELY a small micro stutter. I was able to find a video via a thread on Microsoft's forums of other people complaining about this very issue.

Once you see the video in slo-mo, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. So it ain't just me; there is surely a stutter/pause there.

Have a look see for yourself. Ignore the funny music.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn5UVKQnVgQ"]YouTube - Windows 7 - window animation stutter (a different vid)[/ame]

Here's another video.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdVrSUhvLE&NR=1&feature=fvwp"]YouTube - Windows 7 Aero Animations Stuttering[/ame]

Basically, it looks like the window is "snapping". But snapping to what or for what, I don't know.

Now, about the jaggy icons, a Microsoft mod said that it's "by design". :rolleyes:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
Core Quad Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5K Deluxe
Memory
8GB Corsair PC6400 DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 260GTX 216
Sound Card
X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Viewsonic VP201b & VX922
Hard Drives
HD103SJ, WD7500AAKS, WD5000KS, HD160JJ, SP1614C
PSU
Corsair 620HX PSU
Case
CMStacker 830
Cooling
Stacker 830
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