Suprise with M$ updates

Wandering one

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Have always had both my computer and wife's laptop set to NEVER check for updates. I usually manually check perhaps twice a month, and usual time to search was around 30 minutes. Since January times were in the hours and many times I just gave up. :cry:
Since the middle of this month I tried three times on each computer and the longest wait was SEVEN MINUTES to have the update list ready :what: Is this a mistake or are we now allowed server access for W7 ?
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Users with problems keep blaming MS Servers. Personally I find that update searches might go slightly faster if avoiding serching on Patch Tuesday but those long waits seem to be down to:

Incorrectly configured machines.
Missing updates.
Old updates (WUC) are installed that don't work too well.
Pending or failed updates that haven't been cleared.
Problems with installed versions of NET Framework.

Many users have been able to fix the slow update search problem. If it just went away on it's own with no changes to your system then who knows why?

Any time I've had problems - and I've had a few including this month - there's always been a fix.
 

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Laptop
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ASUS
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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AMD C-60 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
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ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X501U
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4.00 GB
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AMD Radeon HD 6290 Graphics
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Hi,
Yea timing sounds about right :)
Lots of workarounds

I'm not a fan of hiding updates or switching to never check for updates yet ;)
But hiding updates if you do I've found that really does freak out the update system lately
I surely wouldn't hide an Important update ever.

As long as you sort the updates accurately meaning in update setting excluding Recommended updates from being installed the same as Important ones
I haven't had many issues with the real Important updates
But I do have 21 or so Recommended and a few Optional updates I stay well away from

Microsoft Net framework wow that is a weird one which I've found Net 4.5.2 is the best to have around
As far as workarounds there has been one every month
Oddly the updates to install first and manually were Kernel mode drivers
These are updates that quite a few people would usually hold off on installing
But installing it brings up quickly the rest of the round of updates for that month and possibly other prior updates :/

Here's this months workaround listed where most workarounds are first posted at
Brink post these every month,
http://www.sevenforums.com/news/397321-microsoft-security-bulletin-summary-june-14th-2016-a.html
 

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Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
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RE: Problems with NET Framework. I mean one of those problems that you'd never notice unless you tried to tried to uninstall/change or repair an existing installation then you might get informed that the program could not be uninstalled or repaired.

Some uninstallers (including the no longer supported Comodo Programs Manager) indicate problem programs or partial installs with a red X. Windows doesn't give any easy visual indication that there's a problem.

Problem Programs.jpg

Well I had a red X against one of those NET Framework versions some time last year. Removing it using the cleanup tool and reinstalling it also fixed the slow WU problem that I was having at the same timhat'e.

EDIT: That's Prio fixed. (There's no longer a red X against it) - Looks like I'll need to fully remove and reinstall the other program.

Problem Programs 2.jpg

EDIT: Off topic kind of but fixed the other program. The point is that windows does not always show any signs when there's a problem especially with NET Framework.

Problem Programs 3.jpg
 
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My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD C-60 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X501U
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6290 Graphics
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS545050A7E380 SATA Disk Device
Antivirus
Comodo CIS & FW, SecureAplus App Whitelisting, Threatfire
Browser
Cyberfox 64bit, Opera 64bit, Airfox
Other Info
Spy-The-Spy, HitmanPro.Alert, Norton Connect Safe, MJRegWatcher, BitDefender TrafficLight, Voodoo Shield, Zemana AntiMalware
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