Solved System images not incremental as Windows would lead one to believe

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I just ran the windows 7 disc and checked the repair feature after creating several (or so I thought) backups of my computer through creating a system image. I found that I could only access the backup I created today, despite the manage space feature telling me I could delete all but the most recent image. I went back, and reread http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/675-system-image-recovery.html to understand the process a little better. I now understand that to have multiple image backups incrementally, I have to rename my system image folder to say "2011_11_15_WindowsImageBackup" in order to keep the image for that date.

Now, I note in the backup feature, I am able to manage my backup space, and delete all but the most recent image. I now find this funny since it frees up space, but as I understand it, in reality, I cannot access the previous images anyway. If I am understanding this incorrectly, let me know. Otherwise, why is it expanding the space based on the previous images? And why is it saving the previous images if I cannot use them through the Windows 7 repair feature? This seems very misleading of the backup feature to make users think that previous images exist when, in reality, they do not for restoration purposes.
 

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It is my understanding the Windows backup only creates incremental images if you use the "main" backup feature not if you use the create an image link. What you describe about renaming the backups does not create incremental images but a series of full images.
 

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It is my understanding the Windows backup only creates incremental images if you use the "main" backup feature not if you use the create an image link. What you describe about renaming the backups does not create incremental images but a series of full images.

Hmmm, if what you say is true, then my main backup feature must have made a mistake. I was using the main backup feature, and I still could only access the most recent backup through the repair sequence.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BitIntel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9ATI Radeon HD 4850
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion e9110t
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Pegatron IPIEL-LA3
Memory
6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB
PSU
Unknown/installed by HP
Case
HP generic case
Cooling
Intel Stock Cooling
Keyboard
HP Keyboard
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HP Mouse
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Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps
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Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
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When you say repair sequence what do you mean System Restore or Image Restore?
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Servi...Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz8 GB DDR3Intel(R) HD Graphics
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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 1425
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Builtin
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
2TB WD MyBook Live NAS.
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I boot from the Windows 7 DVD, and select Repair your computer. I then select system image recovery.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BitIntel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9ATI Radeon HD 4850
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion e9110t
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Pegatron IPIEL-LA3
Memory
6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB
PSU
Unknown/installed by HP
Case
HP generic case
Cooling
Intel Stock Cooling
Keyboard
HP Keyboard
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HP Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps
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Mmm, interesting. That should pick up multiple images if there are any there. I wonder if your backup drive is large enough to hold more than one. It uses a maximum of 30% of the drive space for images. I personally don't use that procedure anymore so I can't check. I use both the technique you described about renaming images and also, to be double safe, Macrium.
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Servi...Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz8 GB DDR3Intel(R) HD Graphics
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 1425
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Builtin
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
2TB WD MyBook Live NAS.
Mouse
Logitech Anywhere MX
Internet Speed
152 Mbs download 10 Mbs upload
Antivirus
Norton 360
Browser
Chrome
Mmm, interesting. That should pick up multiple images if there are any there. I wonder if your backup drive is large enough to hold more than one. It uses a maximum of 30% of the drive space for images. I personally don't use that procedure anymore so I can't check. I use both the technique you described about renaming images and also, to be double safe, Macrium.

I have a 1.5 TB drive that I am writing to, and the images are only ~65 GB. I doubt that it's a space issue. It may be because my first image I created I did using the "Create a system image" instead of through the incremental backup feature and the incremental backup feature just keeps writing over itself due to that. I think in the future, I will just rename the image to make sure I have full images in case something gets corrupted. It seems like the safer option, anyway.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BitIntel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9ATI Radeon HD 4850
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion e9110t
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Pegatron IPIEL-LA3
Memory
6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB
PSU
Unknown/installed by HP
Case
HP generic case
Cooling
Intel Stock Cooling
Keyboard
HP Keyboard
Mouse
HP Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps
Other Info
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter
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