System reseting when gaming gets INTENSE .

[sygnus21]

Are these temps with a load or idle? They seem awfully high, and I also note the fan running at high speed as well.

 

[Uber Philf]

I thought Overheating at first :/, i don't remember seeing anything about it freezing on the desktop, so under high load, it overheats and causes the freeze. 86c is already very hot.

 

[Pyronox]

idle IDLE IDLE. YEAh thats whas scares me.

 

[Wishmaster]

Are all these temps at idle?

Looking at your Speccy from Page 2 of this thread seem as if everything is a bit on the high side.
Even the Hard drives at 52C.

Im curious:
1) What kind of case do you have?
2) How many case fans do you have? (both pulling in and exhaust out)
3) And last, what are the ambient room tempratutures this PC is in?

And I complete agree with everyone else. Do'nt run out and buy anything just yet untill you can isolate the problem/cause.
It may be something quite simple.

I am beginning to wonder if perhaps this is a compination of high ambient tempratures combined with insuffecient airflow problems for those temps.
The shut dowsns may be due to heat & not neccasarily a hardware problem.

 

[Pyronox]

Im curious:
1) What kind of case do you have?
a normal one, nothing fancy ,you know it holds everthing that i put in . here see for youself

2) How many case fans do you have? (both pulling in and exhaust out)
case fan's . nada . nothing.

3) And last, what are the ambient room tempratutures this PC is in?
i guess around 30 - 35. cuase the air conditioning is on full blast cause of the heat that is around here as of right now. Its sizzling outside

OH and one more thing. My system casing is ALWAYS OPEN. Dont ask me why , i like to keep staring at my graphic card (OH THAT BIG RED DEVIL ;P) ( i think she likes to stare back as well, kidding )

And my system is Switched on 24/7 365 . do you think it could be because of that ?

 

[Wishmaster]

Ok.

You really need at least 1 fan as a exhaust.

Ideally, at least 2. One pulling cool air in, and one exhausting the hot air.

Theres 2 schools of thought on which is best concerning basic air flow:
1. A Negative pressure setup.
This mean you have more of the hot air being exhauted outside the case than cool air being pulled in. (such as a larger,or more exhaust fans than intake)
2. Positive pressure. Just the opposite. You have more cool air coming in than being pushed or pulled out.

I've had better luck with negative, others do better with positive. Depends on the setup.

Also, leaving the side of the case off is usually a bad idea.
Even with no case fans, the PSU and GPU itself are pulling air from inside the case and blowing it out. Creating a negative air flow.

When you remove the side of the case, it all open, and theres no air being pulled in through the vents or flowing over the components to cool them better.
You're best leaving it on.

I completely understand wanting to see the components. Some like that type of stuff (I am one)
But, youd be better off with a case that has a see through side.

IMHO, one thing that may help a lot is to pick up a couple case fans. They are usually fairly cheap depending what type you get. Around 5-10$$ ea.

One in the rear of the case, and one in the fron (preferable pulling cool air into the case and blowing over the HDs)

This way, the GPU will have cooler air to pull in, and should cool it better as well as the rest of the components (MOBO etc)

With the PSU and GPU fans as your only real cooling, leaving the side of the case off may only hurt as theres no air flow at all over the components.

 

[Pyronox]

thanks million wishmaster. i shall pursue said course. If there are any hicks along the way, i ll be sure to let you know.

P.S. Also a thousand thank you's to all you took their time to help me. I owe you guys

BIGTIME !

 

[taylorig]

Im curious:
1) What kind of case do you have?
a normal one, nothing fancy ,you know it holds everthing that i put in . here see for youself

Wow! Look at the dust around the CPU heatsink in that first picture

Get that thing cleaned out big time mate and reapply thermal paste to your CPU also. Then check your temps and report back

And yes, get 2x 120mm fans (One for thr front and one for the back) and make sure they are positioned correctly to create the airflow. ie, Front inwards/back outwards.

Just to add i clean my PC out at least once a month. I use a soft clean (new) paintbrush along with my hoover. Some people don't recommend using an hoover as if you're not careful you could easily damage one of the components (ie. pots). But i have done it this way for years now and never had any issue's. At least this way i am sure i have done a good job. I even go so far as to pull my PSU out and open it up (Every couple of months) and give that the same vigorous treatment. Oh! And i allways wear an anti-static strap

Good luck and i hope you get it sorted

 

[Wishmaster]

One other thought.

Aa taylorrig suggested, a couple 120mm fans would be great.

But, just make sure you can use them.

In the back, and front of the case there shold be a place where you can mount a fan. Measure it (the mounting area), and then compare to the fan sizes.

You may be able to get 120mm, or it may need to be a 92 or 80mm. Or combination.

 

[taylorig]

Yep i said 120mm fans because on that picture i quoted you can see two holes for screws (when you zoom in) which are usually for 80mm and 120mm fans

And alsohttp://www.sevenforums.com/member.php?u=25717 Pyronox you may want to do a bit of cable management in that case also.

Once again good luck with it all. Be careful and all shall be well

 

[pparks1]

I experienced a similar problem at home once with a Dell computer that I had. Ended up being 1 bad ram chip...which of course was bought by myself from crucial.com so I cannot blame Dell for that one.

I agree with the others that you should try to clean out as much of that dust as you can, get the side back on the case for better airflow and add at least 1 fan blowing hot air out of the back.

 

[Pyronox]

Ok.

i feel stupid asking this question. i Bought a Zalman 80mm fan. How do i stall the thing :S

http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=329

 

[Wishmaster]

Have a look at this video Pyronox.

YouTube - How To- Install Computer Case Fans(all sizes)

This is with a long screw and bolt, but you may have shorter self tapping screws.

Either way, it basically the same thing.

If self tapping type, it might be easier to get the screws started in the fan 1st. however you find easier.

Also, if putting in back of case, You want the back of the fan, (where those braces are)
toward the back of the case so its blowing air out.

Open Side=Intake -- Braced Side=Exhaust

 

[Pyronox]

cheers mate

I have the issue of where to plug in on the motherboard. i can install the fan hehe

 

[cloud8521]

i cant beleive that only one person(excuse me if i missed anyone else) suggested cleanign (tho they said the cpu) but this could very well be a dust problem in the gpu itself. i know recently my gpu has been getting up to 120 Celsius, and sure enough i had a nice tape of lint clogging the fins of the heatsink. so that could very well be the problem right there and the first place i would look.

the method i would use is take out the gpu, take a can of air and blast the air down the heatsink fins toward the fan, see what pops up, if you have lint remove with tweezers (since you are grabbing between the fan fins) be careful not to break the fan though. finally sick the nozzle of the air though the fan's fins and blast the heat sink fins that way.

Note: do not blast the air upside down as you may cause freeze damage to the card.
only blast in short bursts (usually >5 second long), as you could also cause freeze damage that way.

always read the can.

 

[Pyronox]

i did mate , BLASTED the bugger with a medium pressurised air. yeah with equal intervals too. slowly.

 

[cloud8521]

i did mate , BLASTED the bugger with a medium pressurised air. yeah with equal intervals too. slowly.

alright and no change at that time then i would assume, btw is there a chance you can get us a probe at the temps when your runnign a game?

 

[Pyronox]

Alright. This is what happened. I removed the card from the case. Undid the screws one by one. The metal casing wouldn't come off. It was beings a stubborn #$*%@. Anyways i made the best of it. I vacuumed it , then used the air blower. I guess it did the trick. Now when i Alt-Tab during a mission in star craft 2 when the battle is intense, It shows between 65 - 67. To my immense surprise. I knew this was too good to last. Then i saw the hard disk temperatures were peaking at 50 degrees, and the processor was also close to 50 .

If it isnt one thing that its the other . Oh and i still have not installed the 80mm zalman fan yet onto the case. Also the GPU fan speed is on a full blast 100 %. It reached 73-76 when i was playing resident evil.

LOL im SO tempted to try out Crysis on my rig RIGHT NOW ! XD

cheers

 

[archie123]

those temps are perfectly fine mate your gpu wil hapilly chug along at over 100 degrees (not ideal obviously ha ha) your cpu temp is very low considering its under minor load and your hard drive temps are acceptable

 

[Pyronox]

hmmm

Ran memtest86+ last night. PASSED. Could we eliminate the ram now...