Taking Ownership problem?

max1680

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Hi,

Before sending my dead laptop in for repairs, I pulled the drive and put it into an enclosure to copy some important files. But to access the files I found that my other computer had to change the ownership of the main folders.

Here's my question: when I eventually reinsert the drive into the repaired laptop, will it work? The problem I forsee is that the primary user's folders (who is also the administrator) are now "owned" by the name of my other computer.

Will this be an issue?

Is there a way to "de-own" all the folders and files entirely, and therefore not worry about it?

Thanks so much!
Max
 

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Thanks essenbe, but I already know how to take ownership.

My question is about booting from a drive whose system folders are now "owned" by a different computer. Will it let me past the logon, etc..?

best,
Max
 

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Windows 7 Home 32bit
I may be mistaken, but when you take ownership of the files on the external drive the changes would only be present in the computer the "Take Ownership" command was run on. I have done this in the past with no ill effects once re-installed in the original computer again.
 

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I may be mistaken, but when you take ownership of the files on the external drive the changes would only be present in the computer the "Take Ownership" command was run on.

NTFS Permissions reside with the files and folders on the drive. Not with the OS installation. Thus when you use "Take Ownership" you are changing those permissions. This is why when you carry drives over from one installation to another they need to have their permissions reset.
 

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You could use dir x:\*.* /q /s to record the current owner of each folder and file, then write a batch file using subinacl to restore them when done.

For instance:
C:\Users\rrkurtz>dir c:\* /q
Volume in drive C is D370_C
Volume Serial Number is C89E-70E8

Directory of c:\

05/21/2011 08:26 PM <DIR> BUILTIN\Administrators Brother
12/12/2009 07:04 PM <DIR> BUILTIN\Administrators NVIDIA
07/13/2009 11:20 PM <DIR> BUILTIN\Administrators PerfLogs
05/24/2011 08:52 PM <DIR> NT SERVICE\TrustedInstaProgram Files
05/12/2011 09:43 PM <DIR> NT SERVICE\TrustedInstaProgram Files (x86)
05/09/2011 05:48 PM <DIR> BUILTIN\Administrators rexxprogs
02/23/2010 12:46 AM <DIR> BUILTIN\Administrators STBak
03/31/2011 08:18 PM <DIR> BUILTIN\Administrators Users
05/29/2011 11:58 AM <DIR> NT SERVICE\TrustedInstaWindows
0 File(s) 0 bytes
9 Dir(s) 36,041,015,296 bytes free
Pipe the output of dir /q to a file then edit it to add the appropriate subinacl statements or write a batch file that takes the dir /q output file as input, processing each line and issuing the subinacl command that way.
 

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Another approach you can take, rather than changing permissions is either use the Copy/Paste method here:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/93347-copy-paste-windows-recovery-console.html

Or just use a Linux live CD to copy the files to another drive.

These links may also be helpful if you do change permissions:

Resetting NTFS files security and permission in Windows 7 « lallous’ lab

How to use Xcacls.exe to modify NTFS permissions

http://www.google.com/search?q=win+...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

James
 

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Win7U 64 RTM
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Q9550
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GA-EP45-UD3R
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8GB Gskill
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ASUS|EAH4850/HTDI/1GD3/A
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xfi Plat
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Dell 2405fpw
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1920x1200
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Seagate & WD sata Drives
PSU
Antec
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Antec
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MS Natural Ergonomic 4000
Mouse
Logitech MX610 USB Cordless
I may be mistaken, but when you take ownership of the files on the external drive the changes would only be present in the computer the "Take Ownership" command was run on.

NTFS Permissions reside with the files and folders on the drive. Not with the OS installation. Thus when you use "Take Ownership" you are changing those permissions. This is why when you carry drives over from one installation to another they need to have their permissions reset.

Well I stand corrected :)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Samsung Chronos 7
OS
windows 7 Pro 64Bit
CPU
2.2 GHz Intel Core i7-2675QM
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 3000/Radeon HD 6490M
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Built in LCD and external Dell 22 inch LCD
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
1 TB HDD
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20 MBPS Down 1500 KBPS Up
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