Solved Task Scheduler or Idiot User Problem?

lehnerus2000

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Recently I had some discussions about the Task Scheduler.

http://www.sevenforums.com/723840-post1646.html

I was directed to Brink's tutorial about the subject.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/12444-task-scheduler-create-new-task.html


  1. I want my PC to wake up at a certain time (once per week), just before AVG is scheduled to do its virus scan.
  2. I created a task which is supposed wake the PC and display a message.
  3. My PC is set to go to sleep after 2 hours, so I set the wake up time to ~5 minutes before AVG is supposed to do its scan & get its updates.
  4. AVG is not performing its scan (it won't scan if the PC is asleep). :mad:
  5. I know that the AVG scan works, because if the computer isn't asleep, the scan runs.
  6. I was expecting the "display a message" task to bring up a dialogue box (with an OK button to dismiss it).
  7. I don't see any messages when I log in to my account.
  8. I followed the tutorial and according to the Task Scheduler history the task runs (the task is supposed to run for 2 hours and then be terminated).
  9. It seems like the task runs, wakes the PC, displays the message and then immediately goes back to sleep (I can't confirm this as I am generally not up at 4:00 am).

In build 7100 I tried the same thing.
The task didn't run but gave a gibberish error message - 0x00blahblah.
I am pretty sure that I had used the same steps outlined in the tutorial on build 7100 anyway - I used the wizard and then went back and entered my password.
I got around the problem by creating a task to run a program.

When I tried this work-around in build 7600, the task wouldn't terminate despite being set to end (forced) after 2 hours. :confused:

I could create a task to use the Command line instruction to run the virus scan.
The trouble is, that in the past when I have used that command, it didn't list the results in the scan log. :(

The only way that I can see to get around this, is to disable the auto-sleep function (i.e. manually put the PC to sleep every night, except the night it is supposed to do its virus scan).

Any suggestions? :confused:
 
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Hello Lehnerus,

You would need to change how long Windows 7 will wait to go back to sleep mode automatically after waking up unattended (no activity made by the actual user) and idle. The default time is only 120 seconds (2 minutes), so you would need to set this for how long it may take for the program to run instead. The tutorial below can help show you how to. It will be the same in Windows 7.

Sleep Return Timeout for Unattended Wake Up - Vista Forums

Hope this helps,
Shawn
 

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Two things, check setting in Advanced Power Settings, "allow wake timers" is set to enable.

In the task scheduler, click “Conditions” tab and make sure that “Wake the computer to run this task” is checked.

Also, can you schedule the task at a time you are awake as a test? After you have allowed the PC to sleep normally, so you can confirm what it is/is not doing?


A Guy
 

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Thanks Brink & A Guy

Thanks for your replies/suggestions. :D

Hello Lehnerus,

You would need to change how long Windows 7 will wait to go back to sleep mode automatically after waking up unattended (no activity made by the actual user) and idle. The default time is only 120 seconds (2 minutes), so you would need to set this for how long it may take for the program to run instead. The tutorial below can help show you how to. It will be the same in Windows 7.

Sleep Return Timeout for Unattended Wake Up - Vista Forums

Hope this helps,
Shawn

I didn't realise that I had to edit the Registry. :o


Two things, check setting in Advanced Power Settings, "allow wake timers" is set to enable.

In the task scheduler, click “Conditions” tab and make sure that “Wake the computer to run this task” is checked.

Also, can you schedule the task at a time you are awake as a test? After you have allowed the PC to sleep normally, so you can confirm what it is/is not doing?


A Guy

I have set both of those options.

Here is a png which shows the relevant settings (hopefully).

PC Wake Up.png

My screen capture came out a bit rough! :confused:
Hopefully my task will now run correctly.
I would have clicked your rep button again Brink, but it wouldn't let me. :)
 
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That's ok Lehnerus. Please let us know how it went. :)
 

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PC Woke Up During Test Run (Hooray)

I just ran a test and the PC woke up. :party:
I didn't notice a message box though (I chose "display a message" as the action). :confused:

It looks like your Reg Edit tip has fixed the problem, Brink. :D

I'll do a combined test and virus scan later this week (to be 100% sure).

Thanks, once again. :D
 

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You're most welcome Lehnerus. I'm happy to hear that it seems to be working now for you. :)
 

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Full Test Result

I just ran a full test and apart from not noticing the message, everything else worked as expected. :)

I guess the message could be one of those slide up notifications that appear over the Sys tray.
I have to log in to my account if the computer has been asleep, so the message could have been displayed and disappeared before I was able to view it.

Thanks for your assistance. :D

Perhaps the "Sleep Return Timeout for Unattended Wake Up" link could/should be added to the other Task Scheduler tutorials (and a note/warning about the 2 minute default). :geek:
For example:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/12444-task-scheduler-create-new-task.html
 

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Good idea. Done. :)
 

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