Solved The Transfer of OEM Licenses from a dead PC to Another PC

[Closed account]

As far as I can tell, I feel like I don't need to make any action. My Windows is activated and it violated one of those rules that regular consumer's don't really pay attention to, which includes me. (at least some people want a genuine COA, while others use crackers, or whatever they are called) I contacted MS and it is indeed an OEM key and not a Volume License Key.

What should I do, or should I just go with it, because MS hasn't taken down these listings:

 

[NoelDP]

Without knowing where thosewere advertised, I can't comment on their likely provenance - but they SHOULD be Full Retail licenses, and NOT OEM ones.
You've been conned, and need to reclaim your money so you can purchase a legal Key.

 

[SIW2]

I see no reason for concern.

They could be from a refurbisher, or from someone exercising their right to unbundle the software.

 

[NoelDP]

1) Refurbisher licenses are OEM System Builder
2) No-one has 'unbundling' rights - except in Germany.

 

[SIW2]

EU.

In this case it is advertised as refurbished, and he got an oem key as expected.

http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-07/cp120094en.pdf

 

[Closed account]

The listing I got it from looked like that, but I am from the US, and it was from the US.

 

[SIW2]

In that case, the seller may be part of the refurbisher program. Did he advertise as such?

If so, you bought in good faith, so I fail to see why there is problem.

 

[Closed account]

In that case, the seller may be part of the refurbisher program. Did he advertise as such?

Nope, my seller had 30 copies sold only. He wasn't as big as the listings I showed. It seems to be a new type of COA because it only has a serial key on it (Windows 8 style in the background) and the product key is on an EULA page. That is the page given to me. He just gave me the serial key sticker and a product key. (No COA, unless the serial key counts as one.)

 

[SIW2]

There you go. The seller is representing himself as a Microsoft registered refurbisher. You even asked MS about the key. That is much more than most people would do.

As far as I know, 8x doesn't come with a COA on oem pre installs. That seems consistent with system builder license being resold. I don't know the details of the refurbisher program or how it operates in the US, and you can't be expected to know them either.

What is the problem?

 

[Closed account]

As far as I know, 8x doesn't come with a COA on oem pre installs. That seems consistent with system builder license being resold. I don't know the details of the refurbisher program or how it operates in the US, and you can't be expected to know them either.

It wasn't preinstalled, but I guess it can be brushed off. I guess the way they are selling it isn't 100% legal, but it activates and MS still gets money. I guess it could just be from a refurbisher getting Win8 COAs and stuff and getting rid of Win7 licenses. One last thing: The Serial sticker I got doesn't look like anything I have seen normally. Is this what MS does for Win8 and newer COAs and stickers?

 

[SIW2]

I have no idea wht makes you think it isn't legit. If you are concerned, you could always contact MS. It looks ok.

You can see here if you like:

https://www.google.co.uk/images?q=w..._group&ei=7Jy4U63qLqqQ0AWemIHgDw&ved=0CBQQsAQ

 

[Closed account]

I have no idea wht makes you think it isn't legit. If you are concerned, you could always contact MS. It looks ok.

You can see here if you like:

https://www.google.co.uk/images?q=wi...w&ved=0CBQQsAQ

Oh okay! So Win8-era COAs and serials look like that now. I'm used to the 98SE/2000/XP/Vista/7 look. So, I'm gonna conclude that I wasn't really 'conned' because the guy seemed to be an authorized refurbisher (by the paper) and gave me the serial key and product key (on paper). I guess I don't have a COA mentioned on the paper, but the serial key and the paper with the COA makes up for it.

 

[NoelDP]

As far as I'm aware it is NOT legal to sell 'bare' refurbisher licenses - refurbs must be pre-installed. (even in Germany) How heavily MS police this I don't know, but the refurbisher stands to lose all their rights if it is outside the rules.

It seems that the vendor has found a way of offering low-priced 'downgrades' for Windows 8 machines without having to do any work in the process. This would have to be queried through MS Legal, rather than the Activation Centres, as the normal operators would not be expected to have a clue about the legalities involved.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

As I said in post #18 for what the trouble is worth ?$100 just buy a new OEM?? I think the example of my brothers experience was fairly explanatory - when something looks too good to e true then it probably isn't.

 

[Closed account]

As I said in post #18 for what the trouble is worth ?$100 just buy a new OEM?? I think the example of my brothers experience was fairly explanatory - when something looks too good to e true then it probably isn't.

I found a brand new system builder's license still in the MS envelope thing (which I think is the legal OEM license to sell) that cost $135. It's a bit pricier than the OEM refurbisher's licenses, but it's legal. I just have to remember to add 'system builders' when I look for licenses next time (if I'm right). Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Don't know about the system builders mate but I would certainly be checking out the activation on that edition you have first for the sake of a phone call simply is not worth any more grief.

 

[Closed account]

I looked up system builder's licenses and as far as I can tell, its like the refurbished version. This is my situation.

Don't know about the system builders mate but I would certainly be checking out the activation on that edition you have first for the sake of a phone call simply is not worth any more grief.

I contacted MS and they told me the Windows version I bought was a real product key and they told me it was an OEM version.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Well worth the phone call cost then Good luck with the install.

 

[Closed account]

A refurbished PC is allowed to use an existing product key (2nd hand if you like) as long as it still comes with its authenticity certificate (COA). This is referred to as MAR (Microsoft Authorised Refurbisher) meaning that Microsoft authorise them to use existing product keys/licenses.

Buying a MAR version of windows means you are technically buying a second hand copy - however, being software, as long as it comes with its COA, will make absolutely no difference at all.

[Source]

I read this and I realized I did not get the original COA. The original PK was on the piece of EULA paper I showed earlier. Does this technically make that paper my COA?

 

[SIW2]

You have got spooked over this.

You will feel better if you ring MS and explain what you are doing, where you got the key from, etc.

Then you can rest easy.

Let us know what they say.

I don't know where Noel's obsession with Germany comes from.