Thinking this is a hardware issue

[cclloyd9785]

When trying to backup on Norton Ghost, i get this error (tried backing up to 2 different drives)

 

[Night Hawk]

Sounds like the source drive is where the problem is. You will likely need to run the "chkdsk /r /f" command with both switches on the C drive as well as checking to see how large the image will be compared to the actual amount of drive space available of the destination drive.

If you are trying to see an image from your main drive use the option included in 7. That always seems to be right on the money as far as the backup images and restoration of them later. The 3rd party programs are then simply left mostly for secondary drives.

They can see errors at times especially if the program itself is suffering a glitch of some kind. Still you will want to check the volume to see if it is found "dirty" with some errors to fix.

 

[cclloyd9785]

Well I ran it, and I didnt see if it had any issues as I started it then went to bed. But the backup still fails. It had to be the source drive considering I've tried 2 different drives. Does that mean I would have to go get another hard drive?


and this I/O error seems to be the error I got when trying to partition my disk a long while ago. I never figured out how to fix it.

 

[Night Hawk]

With too many repeat efforts failing to see a working image with any option I would have to suspect the OS drive is having a problem.

The best advice here would be running a drive diagnostics utility from Toshiba to find out if you are seeing bad sectors or a drive that will fail at some point.

As far as the option for a full system image in 7 I've been restoring several images since the start of the year first on the old build where the board quit and now the new build with each restoration having a success. The lack of success you are seeing however does suggest the main drive you have there is at fault for the continual problems. I think you are realizing that yourself.

At this point I would suggest a good run of diagnostics tool and consider replacing the drive. If still under warranty you may be able to have Toshiba replace it for you.

 

[LiquidSnak]

Try selecting the "ignore bad sectors" option If it works, you have bad sectors:

Run chkdsk once more just to be sure, sometimes it does not catch the first time around. I would also try to monitor it, if it is not giving you a report...

 

[Night Hawk]

That's if Ghost has that option. I know the 7 backup option will simply create an image automatically once the drives and partitions on it are detected if the 100mb and others are present. A repeat run of the check disk won't hurt any as Liquidsnak advised however. Never rule anything out completely!

 

[cclloyd9785]

Well ghost doesn't have that option (as far as I can find), and I cant find the diagnostics tool from Toshiba.com

 

[LiquidSnak]

I just realized I looked up the manual for Symantec software My fault.

Toshiba is fairly useless in the utilities department. Use Seagate's seatools:

| Seagate

 

[cclloyd9785]

Will it work with my *insert some jap. name that starts with an f* toshiba hard drive?

 

[Baloney]

Gyes, help me please! I know this is totally off-topic but I'm a newbee and I just activated my account. How do I start my own thread/forum (whatever its called)? Any help would be appreciated! The reason I'm putting it here is because this is the newest thread/forum (whatever its called) I could find, I just chose it randomly.


GO USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Night Hawk]

Welcome to the Seven Forums! Baloney

When viewing the main page of the correct section you want to start a new thread in simply click on the amber "New Thread" button seen on the upper left hand side just above where the existing threads are listed. If you have any screenshots, images you wish to post read the guide on how to use the snipping tool. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/9733-screenshots-files-upload-post-seven-forums.html

 

[LiquidSnak]

Will it work with my *insert some jap. name that starts with an f* toshiba hard drive?

Yes it will

 

[Night Hawk]

It was ironic but you had already beat me to the punch line LiquidSnak about suggesting the Seagate tools since many find them more flexible with various brands of drives.

 

[cclloyd9785]

When i started a SMART Scan i got the error...


See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.InvalidCastException: Unable to cast object of type 'System.Windows.Forms.Label' to type 'System.Windows.Forms.ProgressBar'.
at SeaToolsforWindows.frmSTXMain.updateRowProgress(Int32 row, Int32 progress)
at SeaToolsforWindows.frmSTXMain.Timer_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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SeaToolsforWindows
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System
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SpawnCLR
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CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Seagate/SeaTools%20for%20Windows/SpawnCLR.DLL
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

 

[Night Hawk]

Don't you love runtime errors?! Since you weren't able to find any Toshiba diagnostic programs that was a thought for use of the Seagate tools.

Another program called HD TUNE however will run a scan for bad sectors on most brands without issues and simply marks them off as the graphical progress is displated rather then any log results. HD Tune website

The latest version will even run on usb flash drives. Simply go for the 15 day trial and give that a look.

 

[cclloyd9785]

Actualyl didnt post this earlier because my computer was lagging, but I got it to work eventually.

I ran all the test and it couldnt find any errors. So what could be wrong?

 

[Night Hawk]

It sounds more like a software/registry type error then any hardware fault if it suddenly cleared up on you. Often when something is having a problem at startup and you restart a few or several times the driver being loaded sideways suddenly loads normally.

I would certainly keep a watch out for the next few days to if the problem reappears. Try running chkdsk /r/f a few times as well as the sfc /scannow system file checker command. One of the two may be all that's needed to clean up a temp problem.

 

[cclloyd9785]

Well I think this error message definetly says its a hardware error.

Error EC8F17B7: Cannot create recovery points for job: Drive Backup of (C:\).
Error E7C3000F: Device \\?\Volume{c1d23603-8657-11df-aeb1-806e6f6e6963}\ cannot read 6168 sectors starting at LBA 60612328.
Error EBAB03F1: The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error. (UMI:V-281-3215-6071)

 

[LiquidSnak]

Yes, it seems like you are having an intermittent hardware error.

I recommend backing up files and trying a different drive.

 

[cclloyd9785]

Well I cant really do that because I dont have a separate drive, but I am thinking of buying a 7200 RPM drive, so that would be when i do that, IF i do that (If not, its just going to wait till I save up enough for a gaming laptop).


Edit: I just found the option to ignore bad sectors (Which is the problem) and it successfully backed up.