Thunderbird up for Adoption

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Mozilla wants to shed itself of Thunderbird, its popular cross platform email client. Although widely used on GNU/Linux, OS X and on Windows, the organization now seems to pretty much view it as a liability.

According to Mozilla executive chairperson Mitchell Baker in a company-wide memo written Monday and widely published online, the Thunderbird project is now seen as a “tax” by Mozilla because it distracts and takes time away from the organization’s software engineers.

Thunderbird up for Adoption | FOSS Force

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Yea many like Firefox and quite frankly I do not see the attraction personally

I barely see Pale moon x64 as viable but I guess anything is better than ie11 :D

Thunderbird well I have never had a use for it office outlook is good enough for the way I use it.
 

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I solely use Firefox and I've actually started using Thunderbird because I find it fits my needs better than outlook. I hope it continues but we'll see.
 

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Same here. I can't imagine using anything other than Firefox or Thunderbird as my daily drivers.
Any time I do use another browser, it just feels so wrong. IE feels ancient and Chrome's GUI is simply unusable.
Thunderbird is the only email client that made sense after I could no longer use Outlook Express.
 

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I am trying out Chromium, the open-source browser upon which Chrome is based. If you think Chrome is too bloated or hard to use, you will find that Chromium is fast, lean and intuitive. I am loving it so far. And I use T-bird on both Windows and Linux, and like it as well. I also have ProtonMail. a web-based free and hyper-secure email. I may have to give up my desktop email, if T-bird goes the way of the DoDo.
 

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NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
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6 GB
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Lenovo LED
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Original that came with computer
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Logitech wireless
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Microsoft Sec Essentials
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Vivaldi
I use FF 46 x64 in the Nightly build, and it works fine. I also use Tbird 46 x64 for my E-mail client, and it's fine as well. I'm disappointed that Mozilla is wanting to shed Tbird.
 

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Microsoft hi-d audio; laptop OEM
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Microsoft USB mouse
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Microsoft Security Essentials/Win 7 firewall
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Firefox 46, MSIE 11, Opera
I used to use Thunderbird ages ago. But now I'm just using web-based mail services and have no need for an email client. Why store all those messages on my drive? Moreover, never downloading email messages to my PC means a malware infection is less likely.

At the same time I can't see why anyone would use any other browser instead of Firefox.
 

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At the same time I can't see why anyone would use any other browser instead of Firefox.

Well, here's one: Firefox crashes my computer, shutting it down completely. Not sure why, but I have installed Chromium. So far, no crashes. And I actually like it better. It's fast and lean, and just flat-out works. Installed quickly even on Linux, and imported my Firefox bookmarks instantly. And it's not Google Chrome, so no tracking, as long as I use Duck Duck.
 

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Logitech wireless
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Logitech wireless
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Microsoft Sec Essentials
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Vivaldi
Other browsers and T-bird for my own POP server

I have MSIE 11, Opera, and FF on my system, and they're all fine. I have Edge on my laptop along with those, too. Still, I prefer FF. As to using Web-based E-mail and my own server, I want maximum control for myself, and T-bird gives that in spades. It uses FF's Gecko rendering engine, so things seem very interoperable. I like FF's HTML-E-mail capabilities. I don't want to use any other platform from a vendor I don't trust.
 

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Microsoft USB mouse
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Microsoft Security Essentials/Win 7 firewall
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Firefox 46, MSIE 11, Opera
I only use TB to access my ISP email, which I never use because it is spam city but if I don't clean it out then my ISP disables it, and I have 1 or 2 older registrations tied to that address that I can't switch to current emails.

TB is horribly CPU-heavy and a bit slow. I can actually go in and clean out the junk in the inbox with their web access at twice the speed.
 

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HP 3-button optical wheel mouse
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I tried Thunderbird but it reminded me of Windows Live Mail, which I hate. I'm still using old Outlook 2003.
 

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I use Thunderbird because it reminded me of Windows Live Mail, which I (used to) love.
:O)

Using it for years, configured just how I need it to be, it's behaving perfect.
Let's hope someone gives it a good home (without destroying it!).
 

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Dell \ Lenovo\ HP \ Toshiba
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W7, W8.1
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FF
I too have been using TB for years and have never found anything to lure me away from it. We have 16 or 17 email addresses, and use almost exclusively POP because I like having control...
 

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I tried Thunderbird but it reminded me of Windows Live Mail, which I hate. I'm still using old Outlook 2003.

I loved Office 2003, but ESPECIALLY Outlook 2003. Do you still have good luck with it? How about compatibility? Have you run into any snags since it went out of support last year?
 

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Windows 8 Pro x64
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16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
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nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI
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Realtek HD Audio
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Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
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1600x1200
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Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
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PS/2 Keyboard
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Microsoft USB Optical Mouse
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Windows Defender
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Firefox ESR 102
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I liked Thunderbird up until the end of version 2. But version 3 brought indexing and tabs and slowed right down.
If only there was an updated 2.19.x version ... lol
 

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Firefox ESR 102
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I use Thunderbird daily. I can't seem to find another free suitable mail client whether using it on windows or Linux. I use IMAP. IMAP keeps emails program updated regardless of which operating system you use. That maybe all besides the point if Microsoft gets rid of their outlook.com IMAP and/or pop servers. That would actually make using Thunderbird or any other mail client useless.
 

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W10 32 bit, XUbuntu 18.xx 64 bit
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Dell
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4GB
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Intel HD graphics
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High Definition Audio Device
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20 inch Screen
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W7=1280 x 720 & Linux Mint Xfce=1360 x 768
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500 GB hard drive
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Usb
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Usb
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High-Speed
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MSE
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Main Browser Firefox
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I have done a clean install of Windows 7 using Dell re-installation disk (Dell sent me one). I also use Free Macrium reflect backup and restore.
Recently, my t-bird became problematic, shut down several times daily without any warning. Reloaded and re-acquainted myself with e M Client 6. Unlike t-bird, I have not found a way to make eMC save an eml file as an html. I have to find a pay-for that will simply convert eml into html, nothing more, nothing less.
 

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Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
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desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
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1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
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AT&T DSL
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FF, GChrome, msIE
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I only use TB to access my ISP email, which I never use because it is spam city but if I don't clean it out then my ISP disables it, and I have 1 or 2 older registrations tied to that address that I can't switch to current emails.

TB is horribly CPU-heavy and a bit slow. I can actually go in and clean out the junk in the inbox with their web access at twice the speed.

Maybe you could change a few settings?

http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers...-links-dont-work-post2854753.html#post2854753

Also right click each folder and choose "Compact" at least once per week.

Other than that try defragging TB's databases.

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ASUS
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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AMD C-60 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
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ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X501U
Memory
4.00 GB
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AMD Radeon HD 6290 Graphics
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(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS545050A7E380 SATA Disk Device
Antivirus
Comodo CIS & FW, SecureAplus App Whitelisting, Threatfire
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Cyberfox 64bit, Opera 64bit, Airfox
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Spy-The-Spy, HitmanPro.Alert, Norton Connect Safe, MJRegWatcher, BitDefender TrafficLight, Voodoo Shield, Zemana AntiMalware
Yet another "brilliant" call by Mozilla.
:doh:

The TB spam handler has been broken for ~1 year (on my PC).
I can't successfully mark an email as spam, or remove the spam indicator from messages that aren't spam.

IMO, Firefox was the best browser, until Mozilla decided to add the worst features of other browsers.
 

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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
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ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
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12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
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Realtek?
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Samsung S23B350
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1920x1080
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WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
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Cooler Master
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Antec GX300 Tower
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3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
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Wired Optical
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DSL
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Avast
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Pale Moon (64 bit)
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2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
Recently, my t-bird became problematic, shut down several times daily without any warning. Reloaded and re-acquainted myself with e M Client 6. Unlike t-bird, I have not found a way to make eMC save an eml file as an html. I have to find a pay-for that will simply convert eml into html, nothing more, nothing less.

I've had problems with Thunderbird three times in the past few years. A full removal (not just uninstalling via add/ remove programs but a full removal) and clean install fixed it each time.

I read a long time ago that Mozilla wanted to ditch Thunderbird and looked at a few other email clients. Like yourself I've got EMClient installed and I'm happy with it. It can import account settings from Thunderbird.

Before that I was using Pegasus Mail as an alternative to Thunderbird just to try it and I still keep it installed even though I don't use it much. However it is possible to save individual emails to html format using Pegasus Mail.
 

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Laptop
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ASUS
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD C-60 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X501U
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6290 Graphics
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
Hitachi HTS545050A7E380 SATA Disk Device
Antivirus
Comodo CIS & FW, SecureAplus App Whitelisting, Threatfire
Browser
Cyberfox 64bit, Opera 64bit, Airfox
Other Info
Spy-The-Spy, HitmanPro.Alert, Norton Connect Safe, MJRegWatcher, BitDefender TrafficLight, Voodoo Shield, Zemana AntiMalware
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