Tricky question? I think so but maybe you know better...

teckneeculler

Member
Power User
VIP
Local time
1:15 AM
Messages
512
In the early stages of a long and fairly un-illustrious career in IT, I tried a couple times to mount a HDD carrying an installed operating system, into another environment, only to have it refuse to boot.

Like, a drive might have been in computer X, running quite happily, but when removed and mounted onto a different motherboard in computer Y, it wouldn't work.

*Can't be done, of course, as most of you people know. There's usually a bleat from the system that it can't find its old familiar surroundings. So I never tried it again.

But this option just occurred to me. How about if you could first STRIP away the environmental data from the system disk? In which case the drive could then be dropped onto a newer motherboard without any more complications than installing new drivers.

What possible use could that be, you ask? Well, one obvious benefit is that you could equip your base system with every possible Windows Update, then image or clone it, and the next time you upgraded your hardware, you'd have makings of your new system, lacking only the newer board's drivers. A bit like an integrated installer built from a base ISO and patched with updates via DISM or some other process, but perhaps a little easier.

Feasible? And before you dismiss the idea out of hand, remember that every fresh Windows install knows nothing about the environment into which you're about to drop it.

So, how can you return your system to that updated but innocent state?

*Actually, and I'm talking W98 days, it DID work once or twice.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win7 Ultimate SP1Intel Core i5 9400 Coffee Lake 14nm16G DDR4NVidia GeForce GTX 960
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
My build
OS
Win7 Ultimate SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5 9400 Coffee Lake 14nm
Motherboard
Asus Prime H310M-E R2.0 (LGA1151)
Memory
16G DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce GTX 960
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (mobo)
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus PA248 24" 16:10 format
Screen Resolution
1920x1200@59Hz
Hard Drives
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM
3726GB Seagate ST4000DM
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM
6TB Seagate
465GB NVMe Samsung SSD 970
PSU
750G2
Case
Tower
Cooling
Standard
Keyboard
USB
Mouse
USB
Internet Speed
920Mbs/480Mbs
Antivirus
Malwarebytes
Browser
Firefox
You would have to gut all of the drivers to start with...
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual bootAMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 420016 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-1...XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mellon Labs (custom build)
OS
Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU
AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory
16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution
3840 x 1080
Hard Drives
1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
PSU
Corsair TX-750
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling
Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
Antivirus
MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Corsair VOID USB headphones.

A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.

Brought to you by the letter E

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pr...Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
But this option just occurred to me. How about if you could first STRIP away the environmental data from the system disk? In which case the drive could then be dropped onto a newer motherboard without any more complications than installing new drivers.

The problem is that this environmental data is critical to even the most basic operation of the OS. Without it you have only a pile of useless code an an unbootable system. You don't have the prerequisites to begin installing drivers.

Feasible? And before you dismiss the idea out of hand, remember that every fresh Windows install knows nothing about the environment into which you're about to drop it.

One of the things the OS installer does is to learn about it's environment and load appropriate drivers. The installer isn't running Windows at this point and cannot use these drivers. It is using very basic drivers that are adequate for it's purpose but useless to Windows. Only after the first reboot does Windows start to function, although at this point at only a very primitive level.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Pro 64 bitXeon W35208 GBNvidia Geforce 210
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
Xeon W3520
Memory
8 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 210
Layback Bear, thanks. Sounds very much like what I was speculating about. Kari says it's real easy and simple. Ha!

Maybe not for THIS bear, who's actually a bear of little brain and easily confused. But I'll read his stuff and hope it sinks in (instead of in one eye and out the other)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win7 Ultimate SP1Intel Core i5 9400 Coffee Lake 14nm16G DDR4NVidia GeForce GTX 960
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
My build
OS
Win7 Ultimate SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5 9400 Coffee Lake 14nm
Motherboard
Asus Prime H310M-E R2.0 (LGA1151)
Memory
16G DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce GTX 960
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (mobo)
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus PA248 24" 16:10 format
Screen Resolution
1920x1200@59Hz
Hard Drives
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM
3726GB Seagate ST4000DM
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM
6TB Seagate
465GB NVMe Samsung SSD 970
PSU
750G2
Case
Tower
Cooling
Standard
Keyboard
USB
Mouse
USB
Internet Speed
920Mbs/480Mbs
Antivirus
Malwarebytes
Browser
Firefox
Back
Top