Triple Screen troubles

prongs

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Hi there,

I recently added a fairly old PCI card to my 8800 PCIe Card running on windows 7 on a gigabyte GA 965P S3 and cannot get three screens working together...

With the BIOS set to use PCI first,

Windows boots on the PCI Card, The other two screens do not come on, Both cards are visible in device manager, only one card is shown in the Screen Resolution options.

With the BIOS set to use PEG first,

Windows boots on the 8800, two screens on, pci card off, pci card NOT visible in device manager, pci card not shown in the screen resolution options...

There doesnt appear to be any other bios settings to do with the screens.... im at a bit of a loss as to what to try next...

I would consider buying a PCIe x1 card to work along side the PCIe x16 card, will this not work for any other reason??

Any ideas anyone?
Cheers in advance!
 

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prongs, welcome to the forums.

You forgot to mention what the old PCI card is. If it is also a Nvidia card, that would be the problem; as both cards would be using some of the same driver files, and some different (WDDM 1.1 and WDDM 1.0), with Windows not initializing/enabling the non-boot card.
 

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Asus M5A97 EVO
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ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
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Thanks stormy,

To be honest I don't exactly know, it probably is written on it somewhere, ill have a good look when I get home tonight, if it is what you say, what can I do to get around this problem? I read that people often buy two of the same card and don't have any troubles...
 

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That would be because the two cards are the same make and model, or at least from the same generation and use the same driver.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
Fair enough,

But isn't using an old PCI card pretty common to support a third screen, that would never be anything like the model of a PCIe card...
 

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Sure. They make pretty decent PCI cards that use WDDM 1.1

They're readily available on Newegg and Tigerdirect.
 

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self built
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7600.20510 x86
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P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz
Motherboard
MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard
Memory
OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz
Graphics Card(s)
HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP
Sound Card
MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit
Monitor(s) Displays
22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 and 1280x1024
Hard Drives
SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB
PSU
350W generic
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Cybertronpc, it glows blue
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stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans
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Logitch Classical Keyboard 200
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Logitech Mediaplay cordless
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Other Info
SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2
Alrighty, ill take a look, cheers!

Would i also be able to use 1 PCIe-x1 and 1 PCIe-x16 instead of the PCI and PCIe-x16?

Any reason to go for one of these options over the other?
 

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If you have an available PCI-e x1 slot not being used, you should get one of those cards.

If not, PCI should be fine.

You'll be best off getting another NVIDIA card to match what you have already, as long as it uses WDDM 1.1.

If you don't know, we can tell you.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self built
OS
7600.20510 x86
CPU
P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz
Motherboard
MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard
Memory
OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz
Graphics Card(s)
HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP
Sound Card
MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit
Monitor(s) Displays
22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 and 1280x1024
Hard Drives
SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB
PSU
350W generic
Case
Cybertronpc, it glows blue
Cooling
stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans
Keyboard
Logitch Classical Keyboard 200
Mouse
Logitech Mediaplay cordless
Internet Speed
1792/448 kbits/sec
Other Info
SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2
Alrighty, thanks again
I might look around for a PCIe-x1 card...
 

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Hmmm so,

I got a PCIe x1 card, its a GeForce 8400 GS WDDM v1.1 alongside my PCIe x16 Geforce 8800GTX WDDM v1.1

The display is detected but isnt coming on,
no problems in device manager but is this the problem that theyre both the same WDDM version or something??

Cheers!
 

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No problem. Install the latest driver from NVIDIA's site by running the .exe.

Should be good.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self built
OS
7600.20510 x86
CPU
P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz
Motherboard
MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard
Memory
OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz
Graphics Card(s)
HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP
Sound Card
MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit
Monitor(s) Displays
22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 and 1280x1024
Hard Drives
SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB
PSU
350W generic
Case
Cybertronpc, it glows blue
Cooling
stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans
Keyboard
Logitch Classical Keyboard 200
Mouse
Logitech Mediaplay cordless
Internet Speed
1792/448 kbits/sec
Other Info
SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2
Yeah tried that already... installed all fine. no changes though

If i pull out my PCIe x16 card the PCIe x1 one works so i dont think theres any hardware fault...
 

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Check the bios for settings that may do something.

Also, disable any unused ports like floppy, parallel, serial, com...etc
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self built
OS
7600.20510 x86
CPU
P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz
Motherboard
MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard
Memory
OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz
Graphics Card(s)
HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP
Sound Card
MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit
Monitor(s) Displays
22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 and 1280x1024
Hard Drives
SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB
PSU
350W generic
Case
Cybertronpc, it glows blue
Cooling
stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans
Keyboard
Logitch Classical Keyboard 200
Mouse
Logitech Mediaplay cordless
Internet Speed
1792/448 kbits/sec
Other Info
SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2
Solved it!
I changed the bios setting from PEG (Boot PCIe first) to PCI (Boot PCI First) and the PCIe x1 card booted the bios on display instead and then both displayed in windows no worries...

So um yeah - that to me makes completely no sense but oh well,

thanks for all the tips everyone!
 

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I run 4 x ASUS 22" If you think that makes no sense ^^^

I was stuffed why I couldnt get all 4 working, let alone install a new driver update from Nvidia. Sometimes three would work sometimes 1. I had two identical XFX 9800 GTX+ cards. Win 7.

It turned out .. and I was dumbfounded. That all the OS needed was the correct Monitor drivers first (asus)
I have never ever, ever never had to install a monitor driver for a windows OS in my 18 years of using them. (maybe win 3.1)

And thats how I fixed it for my issues.
 
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