Two computers on same ISP line - each one start differently

cal680

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I have two computers on same ISP line (Cable). When I start mine it goes thru the start up screens and says Group Policy Client starting, Local session starting and Preparing Desktop. The second computer does not show any of those - it just shows the normal windows log in and goes right to desk top. Searching the internet I have found that those things that start on the first computer are needed and can not be removed - if so why does the second computer not show them? I do not have a network set up, computers are both just plugged into same router. They do not share printer or anything.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64 bit
Without knowing what hardware (motherboard, video, etc) and software are on the two computers (OS, anti-virus, etc), we can't begin to troubleshoot. Please post the specs of these two computers, exactly how they are connected to the 'net (your own router, a modem/router combo from the ISP, etc), and anything else you feel might help in identifying the problem.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 15 L502x
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Core i7-2670QM
Memory
8GB DDR3 PC3-10600
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 3000 + GeForce GT 540M
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1TB 5400RPM Seagate
I suspect even if you connect the 1st computer directly to your modme it will still have those things when you start it. It almost sounds like what windows does on a new install and should not be there normally.
Are both Pcs running Windows 7?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU
Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
Internet Speed
48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus
Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser
IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info
4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
specs

First is HP - Intel 2.6 (unk motherboard) Nvidia video card - 1GB / 6 MB ram / Windows 7 home prem / AVG anti virus / Superspyware / several games.

Second is Lenovo - Intel 2.6 (unk motherboard) On board Intel video - 6 MB ram / Windows 7 home prem / AVG anti virus / Superspyware / no games.

Both are hard wired to router - router is hard wired to cable modem. ISP speed runs between 22 to 33 MB.

Other than games on first - both are about the same. No big difference in utilities - both have Facebook - same email system ect.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64 bit
You're correct that Windows does need all those thing to run, however the messages shouldn't be showing at system start. How long has this been happening? What happened just before you first noticed it?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU
Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
Internet Speed
48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus
Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser
IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info
4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
Is the PC that displays "Group Policy Client starting, Local session starting and Preparing Desktop" per chance a work PC that would normally connect to a domain?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built
OS
Windows 10 Education 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
Memory
8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
Sound Card
VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
Screen Resolution
1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
PSU
Thermaltake TR 620
Case
Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Cooling
Stock heatsink and fan
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
Internet Speed
80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
First to alphanumeric - No - not work PC - never has been

Second - started about a month ago - only thing I can remember - I think - was just prior to it happening was a Windows Update - I have done many virus scans, reg fixes, spyware scans - nothing found other than usual tracking cookies.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64 bit
Two questions, 1. did you set the second computer with your isp. 2. are you useing the same copy of Windows 7 on both computers or do you have two license's.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 730
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 quad Extreme Q9770 @ 3.2 GHz
Memory
4x2 GB Muskin 1600 MHz ram
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GTX 250
Sound Card
Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality Champion
Monitor(s) Displays
2 Dell 2007WFP Ultrascans
Screen Resolution
3360 x 1050
Hard Drives
WD Black 1TB sata, 2-WD Black 500 sata, 2-Seagate 500 Go external
PSU
1000 Watt
Cooling
air
Keyboard
MS Natrual Keyboard Pro
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Trackball
Internet Speed
DSL Elite
Don't understand what you mean by - set - second computer. No - two different copies of Windows 7 - they both came with Windows 7 installed.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64 bit
When i had cable and hooked up a second computer i had to call them and let them know so they could give it it's own ip address. They still work off the same modem and router, but they each need their own ip.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 730
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 quad Extreme Q9770 @ 3.2 GHz
Memory
4x2 GB Muskin 1600 MHz ram
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GTX 250
Sound Card
Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality Champion
Monitor(s) Displays
2 Dell 2007WFP Ultrascans
Screen Resolution
3360 x 1050
Hard Drives
WD Black 1TB sata, 2-WD Black 500 sata, 2-Seagate 500 Go external
PSU
1000 Watt
Cooling
air
Keyboard
MS Natrual Keyboard Pro
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Trackball
Internet Speed
DSL Elite
I asked that when cable installed and they advised - no - not necessary. I have checked that also and they both do have different IP - assigned by router according to techs
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64 bit
If you have a router you don't need a second IP address from your ISP. The Router will get one Public IP address from your modem and hand out Private IP address's to your PCs.
If you use a HUB or Switch, all the PC's will try to get a Public IP address's from the Modem. The Public IP address is what the ISP controls and charges you for. They usually only allow you one Public IP address. To use more than one you have to call and ask for additional IP's and they will likely charge you extra for them.
This is assuming the Modem doesn't have a router built into it.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built
OS
Windows 10 Education 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
Memory
8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
Sound Card
VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
Screen Resolution
1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
PSU
Thermaltake TR 620
Case
Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Cooling
Stock heatsink and fan
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
Internet Speed
80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
Maybe I am misunderstanding entirely but it appears you are asking why messages show on one and not the other. If in fact that is the question, one pc is set to display the messages and the other is not. VerboseStatus is set by manually editing the registry or through Group Policy.
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\policies\system
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Averatec 6130HS-20
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 3.00 GHz HT
Memory
2.0 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 64MB
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97 Audio
Screen Resolution
1280 x 800
Hard Drives
Seagate 96023A 60GB 7200RPM -
Seagate FreeAgentDesktop 250GB
Cooling
20 Inch Box Fan
Mouse
Targus PAWM10 Wireless Optical Laptop Mouse
Are all users on this pc admins and are all users accounted for ? Meaning were there any users setup when you first got the pc that are no longer in use.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
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