UAC

But how does UAC decide when to kick in - for instance I have a tax return program which loads without UAC coming in but with a payroll program it asks for permisson each time.

It depends on what and how the applications are trying to access in the system. It is difficult to say without knowing the code behind the action.
 

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But how does UAC decide when to kick in - for instance I have a tax return program which loads without UAC coming in but with a payroll program it asks for permisson each time.

Well, years ago most Windows programs were designed to be run as an admin with admin level permissions. As time has gone on, apps have been rewritten to not require admin rights. Unfortunately, there are still some apps which haven't been implemented to not require admin level access and that is why UAC prompts really are hit or miss.

Your tax return program loads without needing any admin level credentials. But it seems that your payroll application does require some admin level permissions.
 

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Both programs are set up to run with admin rights via compatibility mode, so why does UAC wants permsission with one and not the other? Weird.
 

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I agree, and UAC was turned off immediately after my fresh install of Win 7. I do not need training wheels, and I am the only user of this PC.

UAC does not equate to training wheels. At it's default setting, UAC in Windows 7 tells you when applications themselves try to gain administrative elevation. It does not tell you anymore when you do things that require administrative access.

I cannot imagine why people don't want to know when an application tries to elevate itself to admin on the box. Even if you are the super power user and know everything there is to know about the box....I would say that you might still be interested to know that some application potentially unknown to you at the moment is attempting to gain administrative rights.

Knowing what is going on is the key to anything in computer software.
And remember it doesnt matter what level you have UAC running at, it all comes down to what the person sitting at the keyboard knows/cares about in the end.

I agree with pparks1 and DarkXeon. The UAC is a warning - a "Do you really want to do this?" question.

In addition, if it is turned off, you cannot use "In-Private" browsing, which you can turn on all the time with this little tweak - http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/6990-internet-explorer-inprivate-filtering-keep.html
 

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I use Nitro PDF and running the program via the Task Manager shortcut as you suggest here works fine. But if I click on a pdf file UAC kicks in (even when Nitro is open). I need to open pdf files like this all the time so the method you suggest here won't work.

is there some other way round this?

Also,does TweakUAC work in Windows 7 as it did in Vista? If so, that would solve the problem.
 
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Why do you need to run Nitro PDF as administrator? It should function without doing that!
 

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Something tells me you might have an older copy of Nitro if you have to run it as admin, and pdfs cause UAC to ask. Try to find a newer copy and uninstall the one you have and then reinstall the new one after reboot.
 

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Why do you need to run Nitro PDF as administrator? It should function without doing that!

And this right here is the reason that I like to leave UAC enabled. You find out things like this....like why your PDF reader needs admin rights. Use FoxIT PDF reader instead would be my suggestion, as it doesn't need to be administrator and thus you will no longer see the UAC prompts.
 

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Something tells me you might have an older copy of Nitro if you have to run it as admin, and pdfs cause UAC to ask. Try to find a newer copy and uninstall the one you have and then reinstall the new one after reboot.

This was downloaded from Nitro site just before installing it so I assume it is the latest version available.
 

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Why do you need to run Nitro PDF as administrator? It should function without doing that!

Hmmmm, I took out Run as Administrator and it loaded without UAC coming in!!
 

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Hi All,
I also have issues with UAC. I do keep it on when my wife is using the computer just in case she accidently hits somehting wrong on a website and it tries to install something.
Anyway I found this standalone program that adjust UAC easily but also has a quiet mode. Not sure if you would like it or not or neeed it but here it is.

TweakUAC cane be downlaoded FREE from the following website.
Disable annoying Vista UAC popups with TweakUAC (FREE)

I have been using in Win7 no issues.

Iggy in the cool part of Arizona :cool:
 

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i cant get rid of shields(yellow-blue ones) even UAC is turned OFF, im using never notify settings which is lowest on scale(uac scale with 4levels) but those yellow-blue shields nearly everywhere in control panel, in taskbar, desktop etc

any chance of a solution to this?
 

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i cant get rid of shields(yellow-blue ones) even UAC is turned OFF, im using never notify settings which is lowest on scale(uac scale with 4levels) but those yellow-blue shields nearly everywhere in control panel, in taskbar, desktop etc

any chance of a solution to this?

Can you use the built in snipping tool to make a screen shot of them and upload it to us?

snipping tool -- type snipping in search
attachment icon--- use this to attach the snip-- its the paperclip shaped icon in the reply form

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Thannks

Kenb J+
 
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i cant get rid of shields(yellow-blue ones) even UAC is turned OFF, im using never notify settings which is lowest on scale(uac scale with 4levels) but those yellow-blue shields nearly everywhere in control panel, in taskbar, desktop etc

any chance of a solution to this?

The shields are there to notify you that elevated admin privledges are required for a specific operation. You'll notice that those shields are also normall overlaid on the icon for installer-type programs.

They remain as some kind of "visual cue" to highlight admin tasks, regardless of UAC settings.
 

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i had an installation of windows which formatted on 20th of July , and i was using that version (7600.16385) , also its UAC was turned off and i havent even faced once with those shields. Wish i backed up an image of it.

this morning i formatted from different win7 dvd (because bought new 1tb hdd) , i guess dvds are different version maybe thats my problem , im trying to solve it for the past 6hour but couldnt find any solution except changing transperency of some dll.
 

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