Unreliable DSL

satchmo

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I live in California and I have Verizon DSL.

Our DSL speed varies tremendously. Sometimes it's decent:



And sometimes it sucks:

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And sometimes, we have no connection at all.

It's been going on for many years, and Verizon has sent someone over to check the problem on four different occasions, but they are unable to fix the problem.

Is DSL inherently unreliable? Does this happen to everyone with DSL? Am I among the few unlucky ones?

We don't have FiOS either. Verizon doesn't offer it in my area.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64
CPU
Core i7 870 2.93 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55A-UD3
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16 GB G-Skills DDR3 1333
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ASUS GTX 680 DirectCu-II Top
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Realtek 5.1 audio
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Samsung 23" widescreen
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2048x1152
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OCZ Vertex III 128 GB (primary)
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Corsair 650W
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CoolerMaster HAF 920
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Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
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DAS Model S Ultimate keyboard
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Logitech G5 gaming mouse
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Built in December 2010
Keep a log. Every hour test the speed. Let's see if we can narrow down when the connection goes bad.
My former boss had a lamp with a build in transformer that would knock out his DSL thanks to some sort of RF interference. Once he moved the lamp or shut it off - all was well in the world.
So, if you're the only one who uses the machine just keep a notepad next to the mouse. If your whole family uses it, set the speed test site to the default page and make them record the time.

The key to solving problems is gathering quantifiable data.

Think about it, if the speed starts dropping off at 5:30pm and eventually becomes unusable by 8pm - what is happening? People are turning their lights on, doing wash, downloading a bootleg copy of Professor Schlong & the Sorority Sisters.

and give your neighbor a call - see if they're having the same issue.
 

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Leopard (not Snow), Vista Ultimate 64, XP 64
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nVidia, or nothing.
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All of my desktop builds have a RAID 1.
We have been noting the pattern of speed variation and disconnection for the past three to four years.

And what we found is that there is no pattern. Sometimes the connection would be fast and stable for 3-4 months straight, and sometimes it goes out almost the entire day. Most of the times, it's somewhere in between.

We have changed the entire computer, changed the OS, changed the wireless router, changed the modem, upgraded drivers, plugged the DSL modem in different phone jacks -- to no avail. Nothing seems to matter or affect the connection.

It's completely erratic.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64
CPU
Core i7 870 2.93 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55A-UD3
Memory
16 GB G-Skills DDR3 1333
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX 680 DirectCu-II Top
Sound Card
Realtek 5.1 audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 23" widescreen
Screen Resolution
2048x1152
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex III 128 GB (primary)
OCZ Vertex II 128 GB (data)
PSU
Corsair 650W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 920
Cooling
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Keyboard
DAS Model S Ultimate keyboard
Mouse
Logitech G5 gaming mouse
Internet Speed
Cable
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Chrome
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Built in December 2010
We have been noting the pattern of speed variation and disconnection for the past three to four years.

And what we found is that there is no pattern. Sometimes the connection would be fast and stable for 3-4 months straight, and sometimes it goes out almost the entire day. Most of the times, it's somewhere in between.

We have changed the entire computer, changed the OS, changed the wireless router, changed the modem, upgraded drivers, plugged the DSL modem in different phone jacks -- to no avail. Nothing seems to matter or affect the connection.

It's completely erratic.

Well, Hm.
I don't know. Call the provider and explain it to them, maybe they have equipment that can see how your signal is.
Maybe there's a bad line filter on one of the phone extensions.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built desktops, Late 2008 Macbook Pro 15"
OS
Leopard (not Snow), Vista Ultimate 64, XP 64
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia, or nothing.
Hard Drives
All of my desktop builds have a RAID 1.
They checked all the filters. When they come to our place to check the signal quality, it's very good.

My question is whether this is a common issue for all DSL subscribers. I mean, does everyone experience this sort of intermittent service with DSL?
 

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Custom
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64
CPU
Core i7 870 2.93 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55A-UD3
Memory
16 GB G-Skills DDR3 1333
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX 680 DirectCu-II Top
Sound Card
Realtek 5.1 audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 23" widescreen
Screen Resolution
2048x1152
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex III 128 GB (primary)
OCZ Vertex II 128 GB (data)
PSU
Corsair 650W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 920
Cooling
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Keyboard
DAS Model S Ultimate keyboard
Mouse
Logitech G5 gaming mouse
Internet Speed
Cable
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Built in December 2010
My question is whether this is a common issue for all DSL subscribers. I mean, does everyone experience this sort of intermittent service with DSL?


With bad ISP's they do. With good ISP's they don't.

We don't have Verizon here in Australia, but I have yet to hear anything that resembles praise (or even satisfaction) regarding Verizon.

It could be congestion at the exchange, dodgy phone lines somewhere, Verizon doing 'maintenance' - it could be anything.

A lot of the times ISP's lay the blame on the user, when in fact it's thier fault.

When I first signed up to my current ISP I had fantastic and consistent speed, but as more and more users were connected to my local DSLAM, the performance dropped by over half.

When I enquired why my service had become degraded, they claimed it was a fault at my end. When many others had a similar issue, it was thier fault too. Despite proof to the contrary, it was never, ever the fault of the ISP :rolleyes:
 

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8 Pro x64
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ASUS P8Z77 WS
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16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhz
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x2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
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SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB / ATH-AD900 Headphones
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x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung
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5760*1200/ 1920*1200
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2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black * Sony Optirac DVD
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Silverstone Strider Evolution 1200W
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Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
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Noctua NH-D14
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Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
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Tell Customer Service you are considering switching to a Cable service...
I'll bet those #'s not only go up but stay more consistent...
 

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Self-Built
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Vista Ultimate X64/ Windows 7 Dual-boot
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Q6600
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ASUS P5K
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4G OCZ PC2 8500 Platinum
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EVGA 8800GTS Vid Card
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500G Seagate SATA
200G Seagate SATA
100G WD Caviar SATA
80G WD Caviar IDE
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OCZ Elite 800W PSU
Case
RaidMax Smilodon Case
I think it's time for me to make the switch to cable.

DSL with Verizon just sucks.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64
CPU
Core i7 870 2.93 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55A-UD3
Memory
16 GB G-Skills DDR3 1333
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX 680 DirectCu-II Top
Sound Card
Realtek 5.1 audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 23" widescreen
Screen Resolution
2048x1152
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex III 128 GB (primary)
OCZ Vertex II 128 GB (data)
PSU
Corsair 650W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 920
Cooling
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Keyboard
DAS Model S Ultimate keyboard
Mouse
Logitech G5 gaming mouse
Internet Speed
Cable
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Built in December 2010
They checked all the filters. When they come to our place to check the signal quality, it's very good.

My question is whether this is a common issue for all DSL subscribers. I mean, does everyone experience this sort of intermittent service with DSL?


It was very good at the instant they checked. That's the problem with those guys. It always works when they arrive.

Dump Verizon - go with cable. But call Verizon first and tell them they have one month to fix the issue or you're going to cable.
Then call the cable company and see what deals they have for "switchers."
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built desktops, Late 2008 Macbook Pro 15"
OS
Leopard (not Snow), Vista Ultimate 64, XP 64
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia, or nothing.
Hard Drives
All of my desktop builds have a RAID 1.
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