Upgrade advice wanted.

OnTheRopes

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My old self build PC is now struggling to work with editing 4K video I would like a little advice on a possible upgrade.
Currently I have:
Intel(TR) Core(TM) i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80 GHz
8GB RAM
Windows Seven Pr 64 bit
NVIDEA GeForce GTX 460

I would like if it is possible a economic upgrade to make editing 4k video as pain free as possible.
Thanks
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Build
OS
Windows Prox64
CPU
i5 760 2.8Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D-E
Memory
Corsair XTS 2x4 Gb
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GTX 460 1024Mb
Monitor(s) Displays
HP LP2475w
Hard Drives
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB
PSU
Corsair 600CX
Case
Corsair Graphite 600T
Antivirus
Kaspersky IS
Browser
Chrome
How big is your hard drive? How much free space do you have? You need to have sufficient free space, say, at least 30 GB, after you have copied everything to the drive.

Defrag your hard drive. If it is badly fragmented, that will slow things down. (Mild defragmentation won't make much of a difference.)

Consider getting an SSD. Read this before deciding what kind to get.

Increase your memory to 16 GB, if your computer will allow for it.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
CPU
Haswell
Memory
4 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two hard drives, 1TB each: One for Linux, one for my data.
Keyboard
IBM Model M
Antivirus
Sophos (Linux), Trend Micro (Windows)
Browser
Firefox, Opera
Other Info
I use Samba to share my data drive with the other computers at my house and with my guest session in VMWare Workstation Player.
How big is your hard drive? How much free space do you have? You need to have sufficient free space, say, at least 30 GB, after you have copied everything to the drive.

Defrag your hard drive. If it is badly fragmented, that will slow things down. (Mild defragmentation won't make much of a difference.)

Consider getting an SSD. Read this before deciding what kind to get.

Increase your memory to 16 GB, if your computer will allow for it.

Hi and cheers for responding.
I have plenty of hard drive space and they are not fragmented. SSD would no doubt help as would more RAM though I need to check if I have space. I do think I need a new processor/motherboard though.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Build
OS
Windows Prox64
CPU
i5 760 2.8Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D-E
Memory
Corsair XTS 2x4 Gb
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GTX 460 1024Mb
Monitor(s) Displays
HP LP2475w
Hard Drives
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB
PSU
Corsair 600CX
Case
Corsair Graphite 600T
Antivirus
Kaspersky IS
Browser
Chrome
What I've done in the past for Myself and for clients is specified a Bare Bones PC unit (People like Scan often have these available as do a lot of smaller companies).

A barebones system will contain a case, (or not if you want to re-use your existing one), motherboard, with Processor and RAM, (existing RAM can be used but will likely limit the total speed of the system), and anything else you specify such as an SSD and a modern Graphics system - They will sometimes Include an OS but if you have a Retail copy on your old hardware this can be transferred. It's then normal to set the SSD as your System Boot drive and re-use your old drive for storage only, DVD drives may also be transferred if you still use them. You then utilise your existing Monitor Mouse & Keyboard, plus any other specific hardware (joystick? Pen Tablet? ...)

This type of upgrade will provide you with a major upgrade, (with things such as USB3 SATA 6MB/s drive controllers Etc), for a lot less than a total new system and often less than you could buy and build yourself
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
I'm guessing that the main bottleneck in your system is the final video rendering stage. This is mainly down to cpu power. That old i5 hasn't enough horses IMHO. Here's a couple of more modern chips for comparison - one Intel and one AMD. The new AMD Ryzens give very good bang for bucks.


The scores in this comparison are directly proportional to render times, so these 2 cpus would output a video in around 25% of the time on your old i5.


cpu benchmark
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self build
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 sp1
CPU
i7 4770K
Motherboard
MSI B85M-E45
Memory
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
LG 27MP35
Screen Resolution
1920-1080
Hard Drives
Seagate 2TB
PSU
Cooler Master GX 750
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Seidon 120V
Internet Speed
60/18
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Firefox
What I've done in the past for Myself and for clients is specified a Bare Bones PC unit (People like Scan often have these available as do a lot of smaller companies).

A barebones system will contain a case, (or not if you want to re-use your existing one), motherboard, with Processor and RAM, (existing RAM can be used but will likely limit the total speed of the system), and anything else you specify such as an SSD and a modern Graphics system - They will sometimes Include an OS but if you have a Retail copy on your old hardware this can be transferred. It's then normal to set the SSD as your System Boot drive and re-use your old drive for storage only, DVD drives may also be transferred if you still use them. You then utilise your existing Monitor Mouse & Keyboard, plus any other specific hardware (joystick? Pen Tablet? ...)

This type of upgrade will provide you with a major upgrade, (with things such as USB3 SATA 6MB/s drive controllers Etc), for a lot less than a total new system and often less than you could buy and build yourself

Thanks an interesting option, once I get time I shall look closer at that.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Build
OS
Windows Prox64
CPU
i5 760 2.8Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D-E
Memory
Corsair XTS 2x4 Gb
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GTX 460 1024Mb
Monitor(s) Displays
HP LP2475w
Hard Drives
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB
PSU
Corsair 600CX
Case
Corsair Graphite 600T
Antivirus
Kaspersky IS
Browser
Chrome
I'm guessing that the main bottleneck in your system is the final video rendering stage. This is mainly down to cpu power. That old i5 hasn't enough horses IMHO. Here's a couple of more modern chips for comparison - one Intel and one AMD. The new AMD Ryzens give very good bang for bucks.


The scores in this comparison are directly proportional to render times, so these 2 cpus would output a video in around 25% of the time on your old i5.


cpu benchmark

Not so much final render, I can always wait for that, it is more the build and editing in the timeline that is slow.
I am advised that although Ryzens are very good they would be much slower with premiere Pro due to Adobe not havong it sorted yet
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Build
OS
Windows Prox64
CPU
i5 760 2.8Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D-E
Memory
Corsair XTS 2x4 Gb
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GTX 460 1024Mb
Monitor(s) Displays
HP LP2475w
Hard Drives
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB
PSU
Corsair 600CX
Case
Corsair Graphite 600T
Antivirus
Kaspersky IS
Browser
Chrome
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