'Upgrade or Full' What is the difference..

[Sven]

Actually I was quite right indeed as I never mentioned XP, I did day Vista and 7. The reason for this is the Anytime Upgrade option so that every edition is on every DVD but you still need to purchase a license.

You are right, but Burgurne has also right about XP, but XP did not have that Anytime Opgrade option.

I2aMpAnT, you did not mentioned XP, so Burgurne, try read a little harder

 

[TheIgster]

This may have been covered, so forgive me if it's already been answered, but I don't have installed discs for Vista that the wife and I had on our machines before loading the RC of 7, so as for upgrading, my only option might be to use the two Windows XP Pro discs that I have.

Question: Can I use these to install the 7 upgrade? If so, what version could I upgrade to for Windows 7? Thanks.

 

[Lordbob75]

This may have been covered, so forgive me if it's already been answered, but I don't have installed discs for Vista that the wife and I had on our machines before loading the RC of 7, so as for upgrading, my only option might be to use the two Windows XP Pro discs that I have.

Question: Can I use these to install the 7 upgrade? If so, what version could I upgrade to for Windows 7? Thanks.

If a disk is all that is required, then there are other ways of obtaining one..... Like burning your own. You know.

Can't say any more than that, but if you need help, PM me.

~Lordbob

 

[TheIgster]

Could I not simply use the XP discs I have though? Would that not be enough, or do I need Vista to go to 7? Like I said, I have two XP Pro discs purchased legally. And if so, what version of 7 can I go to with an upgrade from XP Pro.

I know how to get a hold of "other" types of media for discs...

 

[Lordbob75]

Could I not simply use the XP discs I have though? Would that not be enough, or do I need Vista to go to 7? Like I said, I have two XP Pro discs purchased legally. And if so, what version of 7 can I go to with an upgrade from XP Pro.

I know how to get a hold of "other" types of media for discs...

I think you can actually.... I know we talking about that here, I think in Upgrade or Full - What is the difference? Find that thread in general, I think it is in there.

~Lordbob

 

[TheIgster]

Thanks.

 

[alexlonca]

For those of you that bought Upgrade but want a full install:

HOW TO DO A FULL INSTALL WITH AN UPGRADE DISK:
1) Put in the Upgrade disk and boot into it.
2) Install the OS, but DO NOT enter your product code!!! Select skip instead.
3) After install in complete, run Setup from INSIDE the new install and this time enter your Product Key.

~Lordbob

actually Product Key is exactly same for both versions
so why to go such complicate way ?

 

[Lordbob75]

actually Product Key is exactly same for both versions
so why to go such complicate way ?

No its not. There is a Full Install Key. That will only activate a full version.
The upgrade requires a previous installation.

The only keys that are the same are the x32 and x64 keys.

~Lordbob

 

[Johanster]

Microsoft gives people way too many headaches.

 

[alexlonca]

No its not. There is a Full Install Key. That will only activate a full version.
The upgrade requires a previous installation.

The only keys that are the same are the x32 and x64 keys.

~Lordbob

there is no full install Key . there is installation key .
upgrade DVD requires a previous installation but it has nothing to do with install Key.

 

[Lordbob75]

there is no full install Key . there is installation key .
upgrade DVD requires a previous installation but it has nothing to do with install Key.

No, they are very different. If you do a full install and try to activate your copy with an Upgrade key, it will not work. If you upgrade and try to activate it with a Full install key, it wont work.

~Lordbob

 

[desertjedi]

I pre-ordered the Home Premium Upgrade today. When I go to install it, I'm hoping that 7 will prompt me to insert my XP CD, which will, in fact, be an OEM CD. I may or may not have XP installed on my HDD at this time.

I'm hoping that is how the upgrade will work. In the past (long ago), I remember it working that way. I can't see M$ expecting you to have a working and installed version of XP. Hell, what if your hard drive died on Oct. 21st?...one day before you receive your 7 Upgrade?

I also can't see M$ expecting you to have a full retail XP CD. I just read that 95% of Windows sales are OEM (packaged with a new PC).

UPDATE: According to this informative article (http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/06/windows-7-pricing-announced-cheaper-than-vista.ars), you'll need to have XP installed and then the 7 Upgrade install will zap the XP install and write 7 over it (on the same partition). If such is the case, I doubt M$ will be too concerned about questionable copies of the OS. If they had you insert your XP CD, then I could see them being a bit more thorough about that.

I also found out that my pricing was wrong. I thought Full 7 Pro costs $199, it really costs $299!!! I went ahead and ordered an upgrade version of Pro for my business for $99.

 

[hakanevil]

why buy a full version?

didnt read thru all pages so i might have missed something but:

If I buy a new pc, with no OS and a "upgrade" version of w7 because its cheaper than full... Can I install the upgrade (will it even allow me to do that on a empty HD?) without entering the Product Key?... After the setup is complete I install it again and enter the Key and now i have a full 100% legit install of w7?
If this works, why is there even a full version to buy? Other than that you only have to install it once?

 

[grouchpunk08]

didnt read thru all pages so i might have missed something but:

If I buy a new pc, with no OS and a "upgrade" version of w7 because its cheaper than full... Can I install the upgrade (will it even allow me to do that on a empty HD?) without entering the Product Key?... After the setup is complete I install it again and enter the Key and now i have a full 100% legit install of w7?
If this works, why is there even a full version to buy? Other than that you only have to install it once?

Yes

 

[Lordbob75]

didnt read thru all pages so i might have missed something but:

If I buy a new pc, with no OS and a "upgrade" version of w7 because its cheaper than full... Can I install the upgrade (will it even allow me to do that on a empty HD?) without entering the Product Key?... After the setup is complete I install it again and enter the Key and now i have a full 100% legit install of w7?
If this works, why is there even a full version to buy? Other than that you only have to install it once?

Yes

No.

It is possible to do a full install from an Upgrade disk.
But to do that on a new computer with no previous OS (i.e. Vista), then it will work, but WILL NOT be legal. That is why you will need the full version.

~Lordbob

 

[grouchpunk08]

didnt read thru all pages so i might have missed something but:

If I buy a new pc, with no OS and a "upgrade" version of w7 because its cheaper than full... Can I install the upgrade (will it even allow me to do that on a empty HD?) without entering the Product Key?... After the setup is complete I install it again and enter the Key and now i have a full 100% legit install of w7?
If this works, why is there even a full version to buy? Other than that you only have to install it once?

Yes

No.

It is possible to do a full install from an Upgrade disk.
But to do that on a new computer with no previous OS (i.e. Vista), then it will work, but WILL NOT be legal. That is why you will need the full version.

~Lordbob

But its possible, so yes. . He didn't ask if it was legal, he asked if it was possible.

 

[Lordbob75]

Yes

No.

It is possible to do a full install from an Upgrade disk.
But to do that on a new computer with no previous OS (i.e. Vista), then it will work, but WILL NOT be legal. That is why you will need the full version.

~Lordbob

But its possible, so yes. . He didn't ask if it was legal, he asked if it was possible.

I interpreted legit as legal as well.

~Lordbob

 

[TheTeZ]

Full versions can do a clean install on a machine with no OS, upgrade requires a copy of xp or vista on that machine already (as far as the licence goes, anyway) - and it checks, so you need windows installed already to do a clean upgrade. Installing the upgrade copy twice allows you to get past that requirement.

OEM prices will come out presumably closer to launch date.

If it need windows already installed, do i need to reinstall the vista, and then upgrade to 7... now i only have 7 on my machine... and i already throw away the vista CD... only the sticker at the bottom of my laptop still stick strong.

doesnt need to be installed, you just need a CD... i think ...theoretically... a copy would work too.... ... it asks you to pop it in if your doing a clean install. it reads it, makes sure it is a prior copy of windows than continues with the install. No difference really, except ... putting in a CD and taking it out.....

 

[Snufffed]

didnt read thru all pages so i might have missed something but:

If I buy a new pc, with no OS and a "upgrade" version of w7 because its cheaper than full... Can I install the upgrade (will it even allow me to do that on a empty HD?) without entering the Product Key?... After the setup is complete I install it again and enter the Key and now i have a full 100% legit install of w7?
If this works, why is there even a full version to buy? Other than that you only have to install it once?

It has been this way since Windows 3.1 - You might Ask Microsoft,
but I'm sure it is because many ppl think "Upgrade" only works one way.

 

[ratronic]

Just some info, I had vista home premium installed and then put in win7 rc. Since then I rebuilt my computer (motherboard, processor, etc) and installed the win7 rc disk I originally downloaded with the first Computer. Then on the 22nd I down loaded the preorder upgrade iso and installed it over the rc with the new key provided and it works just fine.