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The version of Vista 32bit that I now have is the "Upgrade" version. I used the install over itself trick to get a clean install. Will I be able to buy W7 64bit "Upgrade" when it's released in Oct and do the same with it? In other words, can I upgrade an upgrade?
 

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I somehow doubt you can upgrade a 32-bit system to 64-bit. I could be wrong though.
 

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All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
I don't mean to actually upgrade, I intend on doing a clean install. I mean, will the version that I now have qualify me to purchase and use the upgrade version saving me big bucks.
 

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AMD Athlon 64 DC 4200+ 2.2Ghz
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Biostar TForce6100
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Radeon X1650 256MB
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HP w2207h
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Antec 500W 80+
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As far as I know as long as the copy of vista is activated and otherwise legal you should have no issues using it as the basis of an upgrade to Windows 7.

However It is not possible to upgrade to 64 bit over a 32 bit system.

It may be possible to choose an upgrade option that creates a fresh 64 bit install on another partition but I cannot confirm this
 

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I thought an upgrade version was just for upgrade. How do you do a clean install with an upgrade disk? From 32 bit to 64 bit you will probably need a full version.

Barman58 said:
It may be possible to choose an upgrade option that creates a fresh 64 bit install on another partition but I cannot confirm this
Click to expand...

That would make a lot of sense as an upgrade option.
 

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XP, Seven, 2008R2
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AMD, Intel, VIA
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Various
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Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
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All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
sup3rsprt said:
I thought an upgrade version was just for upgrade. How do you do a clean install with an upgrade disk? From 32 bit to 64 bit you will probably need a full version.



That would make a lot of sense as an upgrade option.
Click to expand...


When I bought Vista I bought the upgrade version. I installed it to a clean (formatted) drive by installing it and not entering the key or activating it. I then immediately turned around and installed it again as an upgrade install over itself. It is said that this will also be possible to do with W7
 

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W7 64bit 7600 with SP1
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AMD Athlon 64 DC 4200+ 2.2Ghz
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Biostar TForce6100
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4 Gigs
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon X1650 256MB
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2207h
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
OS - WD 320Gig SATA
BackUp - WD 640Gig 32mg cashe SATA
PSU
Antec 500W 80+
Case
Antec
Sorry, I forgot about that one. In that case you make a good point and I have no idea if it will work with Win 7. Great question!
 

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XP, Seven, 2008R2
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AMD, Intel, VIA
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Various
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Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
Other Info
All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
The way I understood things from vista was that due to technical considerations, (file locking), the 64 bit upgrade disks had to be installed from the DVD, (the running of setup.exe from within windows was not an option).

Once the setup was running it would check the presence of an activated, eligible, windows product, and then offer the in-place upgrade or a fresh install to a different partition.

Hopefully this will be the case with windows 7 but as the actual upgrade disks are not yet available this will have to be confirmed when they are.

The same of course applies to the double install method that was available for Vista
 

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    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
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    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
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