USB Devices slow at boot up

[Homeuser66]

Hi, I have a USB issue going on here. I currently have all Logitech devices hooked up to my computer, a G-13 gamepad, G-15 Keyboard, G-930 Headset, Webcam C600, an Epson 845 workforce printer...and a few others.

I installed 2 x 120GB SSD's in a RAID 0 Configuration. Computer starts up and I'm on my desktop in 13 seconds!

Problem: It takes up to 1-2 minutes for me to be able to use my keyboard.

What I have done so far: Removed all USB devices except for Keyboard and Mouse. and I still have this issue, so I don't see a conflict with any other devices. However, I don't remember if I actually uninstalled the devices and/or drivers..I have tried the Microsoft Fix-it tool, I also tried cleaning my Drive of all old and temp files.

I never noticed this when I just had a normal HDD installed, but then again, it took a few minutes for the computer to even boot up to desktop...where I usually went and made a cup of coffee or something else till it was up and running...lol

I can upload any Event logs or what ever is needed to help in the fix of this issue..

I'm wonderning if it's some sort of Microsoft update issue? I didn find that this update: KB2529073 was causing some issues, and I uninstalled (rebooted) it and still have the issue.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!!

 

[DustSailor]

Nah mate. Make sure you have all windows updates installed.

Then make sure you have all the appropriate motherboard drivers installed: ASUS - Motherboards- ASUS Rampage II Extreme

THEN make sure you have your keyboard and mouse drivers installed: Support + Downloads

If you have some of these drivers already, consider uninstalling them first. That way you will have a fresh install and the newest driver available.

*Note that all drivers listed are US drivers.

 

[Snakeyeskm]

Longshot. Try disabling Legacy USB in bios.

 

[Homeuser66]

I'll look into this...but someone else suggested I may need a bigger PSU...I'm running a 850w one now...

 

[Snakeyeskm]

I very much doubt if this is a PSU issue. There have been frequent instances when certain USB devices by certain manufacturers have created delays in USB recognition by the OS and as a result have affected other USB devices connected to the same PC. Since your mouse and keyboard are the key USB devices, it might make sense to temporarily try another mouse/keyboard to see if these delays are specific to your existing system.

Since you SSD boots very fast, the issues are clearly within the Windows OS process as it loads additional devices. If you have the time and/or inclination. You could investigate your boot process within Event Viewer/Application and Service Logs/Microsoft/Windows//Diagnostics-Performance/Operational. A review of your boot process using this might and I stress might, help in diagnosis.

 

[whs]

1. Is it only the keyboard or the mouse too?
2. Did you try another keyboard.
3. If the mouse works and you have no other keyboard, try the on-screen keyboard. Put it into the taskbar for easy access - from All Programs > Accessories > Ease of Access.

 

[Homeuser66]

Longshot. Try disabling Legacy USB in bios.

I looked into this and I saw that I had Legacy set to AUTO, so I changed it to ENABLED and so far, it worked like it was supposed to. I'll keep you up to date..


@whs: Thanks for your suggestions! I actually forgot to mention that I had already tried different keyboards and the PS2 types (which I can't buy anymore) worked perfectly!

1. Is it only the keyboard or the mouse too? Sometimes the Mouse too.
2. Did you try another keyboard. Yes
3. If the mouse works and you have no other keyboard, try the on-screen keyboard. Put it into the taskbar for easy access - from All Programs > Accessories > Ease of Access. Sometimes can't use the mouse, so this option won't work all the time.

@Snakeyeskm: I'll look into your option next, as for now, it seems to be working..but then again, I only restarted it a few times since I changed the USB option in my BIOS...

 

[Homeuser66]

Update: I changed the BIOS setting to all three settings (Auto, Disabled and Enabled) and still stays the same.

I have since Formatted and started again. This time trying to see if it was software related or what.. It's not software related, well not any conflicts that I found. It has something to do with Windows updates somewhere, but there are 93 of them installed, which means, I'm going to have to start all over again installing them one at a time and restarting...that will take days...but if I want to fix it, then this is what I have to do..

Unless someone else has a better idea?

 

[DustSailor]

Nah mate. Make sure you have all windows updates installed.

Then make sure you have all the appropriate motherboard drivers installed: ASUS - Motherboards- ASUS Rampage II Extreme

THEN make sure you have your keyboard and mouse drivers installed: Support + Downloads

If you have some of these drivers already, consider uninstalling them first. That way you will have a fresh install and the newest driver available.

*Note that all drivers listed are US drivers.

Do all of this. While updating with windows update, you might do 5 at a time. I thought in your first post you said you knew which update caused it? Keep in mind you can use restore points if you need to: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/700-system-restore.html

 

[Homeuser66]

Nah mate. Make sure you have all windows updates installed.

Then make sure you have all the appropriate motherboard drivers installed: ASUS - Motherboards- ASUS Rampage II Extreme

THEN make sure you have your keyboard and mouse drivers installed: Support + Downloads

If you have some of these drivers already, consider uninstalling them first. That way you will have a fresh install and the newest driver available.

*Note that all drivers listed are US drivers.

Do all of this. While updating with windows update, you might do 5 at a time. I thought in your first post you said you knew which update caused it? Keep in mind you can use restore points if you need to: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/700-system-restore.html

I did say I found something in my original post, but it didn't work. I will try all these steps..However, I think there might be something going on with my MOBO...the devices in question light up and turn off during the boot process and I have a co-worker who built the same rig with the same devices and he don't have this issue...Even to get into the BIOS, I have to be quick to hit the DELETE key or else I miss my opportunity..So, its leading me to believe it could be MOBO related...which my BIOS is updated as well..

As far as the updated Drivers from ASUS, I have the latest that they have to offer..and the same goes with Logitech...all newer ones from there...

 

[DustSailor]

You might try checking to make sure the motherboard battery is okay, but that is a shot in the dark. They usually last a long time. Other than that, keep us posted on anything new, and let us know if it works out.

 

[Homeuser66]

You might try checking to make sure the motherboard battery is okay, but that is a shot in the dark. They usually last a long time. Other than that, keep us posted on anything new, and let us know if it works out.

Hah! Funny you should mention to keep you up to date...I have been working on this for the last 3 hours. it has come down to this,(see img) I created a system restore point to the point of no issues and everything working perfectly. Every time I install one of the following updates, I either get a BSOD for the ntoskrnl.exe (which I have started a post on before) and/or my USB devices not starting up when the computer boots up.

It seems when I install one of these I get the BSOD and the USB devices won't start up..with out them installed.....It's flawless...I'll post back with what I find out..unless someone has an idea here???

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Update: For some reason, which is beyond me. For my Marvell Yukon 88E805 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet (I don't know why it is a PCI-E one, cause its not, it's part of my MOBO) the older driver version 11.0.5.3 works flawlessly allowing me to have everything boot up without issue. The only issue leaving this driver installed, the computer will boot up slower but everything comes on together. When I install the 11.22.3.9 updated version, this is where I get all my issues....I have tested it at least 10 times, restarting and everytime, with the old drivers, It does the same exact thing over and over again, which is slower start up and all USB devices working perfectly.
With the newest version, it's a quicker boot up time, but I lose the ability to use mouse and keyboard for almost 1-2 minutes...Faithfully... So now my dilemma, live with which ever one I want to live with, or continue to figure this thing out.....

 

[DustSailor]

You can hide those updates. In this case, you should choose to get those drivers from the motherboard's website, rather than windows update. Glad you found the cause.

If the motherboard's drivers from the website don't work, and/or you are fine with your current drivers, then I would leave everything as is.

EDIT: the display driver is not part of the motherboard, nor is it usually needed. I would altogether disregard that one.

 

[3heeltoad]

What you can do is but readyboost on the devices you use most, keyboard, mouse etc.
I'm not sure if that will help but I have a usb and it was doing the same thing I found readyboost in properties and just installed it to the usb, takes about 5-7 secs to load up.

Good luck

 

[DustSailor]

What you can do is but readyboost on the devices you use most, keyboard, mouse etc.
I'm not sure if that will help but I have a usb and it was doing the same thing I found readyboost in properties and just installed it to the usb, takes about 5-7 secs to load up.

Good luck

No mate, readyboost makes a spare USB thumb drive "act as RAM", to put it lightly. It does nothing for the keyboard or mouse. It is good to speed up slower systems by a small degree, but does nothing else. It will not speed up a USB device. It is confusing, I know. Perhaps this will help you understand it better then I can explain it -

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/readyboost

 

[Homeuser66]

Ok, So apparently it is related to my Marvell Yukon 88E805 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Driver. I have found the most recent updated version (11.45.4.3) and this still does the same thing. I am going to uninstall it and go back to the original one (11.10.5.3) and live with the Slower Boot up time for now, till I can find this fix. I have looked into the properties (perhaps I should start another thread on this) of the Network Controller and found the Advanced Tab and here is a bunch of stuff I am not at all familiar with. Maybe someone here can help me to understand them?

 

[DustSailor]

But that wont speed up your boot time. You can follow this tutorial. It has many settings you can change and tells you exactly what you can do to speed up a system without downloading a thing:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11728-optimize-windows-7-a.html

 

[Homeuser66]

Hmm....I appreciate your input here, but I just formatted and everything should be optimized already by default. I have nothing installed on here yet, except for Windows Updates and most Drivers. I am using 2x120 SSD's in a RAID 0. My Boot time is less than 15 seconds. The Write-Caching might be something I will look at in the future, but right now, I am trying to figure out I have reverted back to the original Driver for my Network Adapters and its working like it's supposed to...for now..I have Hidden the Marvell Yukon 88E805 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet updated Driver for now...and so far things are running smoothly...I'll keep you posted...

 

[DustSailor]

Alright, glad it is back to good. Take care

 

[Homeuser66]

For the Most part, it is...Thanks, Dusty!