USB External Drive worth the money ?

[clint]

I just purchased a Seagate USB external drive clunking out a chunk in my opinion. I have to wonder if these external drives are worth the money. I have purchased several flash drives in the past to be used as storage, and also to carry my documents with me. I paid $100 for the Seagate 1 TB drive. In all honesty I have probably wasted more money on the flash drives than this drive compared to the enormous storage capacity.

The reason for purchase was mainly storage, and system backup. I'm pretty good about saving my work etc, however I have had corrupt disc, ect, also I have had compatibility issues when upgrading computers.

This is my first post here, I used to be a little computer savvy, maybe even a little computer geeky however when my first child was born..well time was less, then my second child was born, time even less, then I became a single parent.. well I don't know what time is now.

 

[Night Hawk]

Wlecome to the Se7en Forums and the world of external drives! clint

The drives that come in the external usb even eSata enclosures are good for just that. "storage"! When first going to test 7 one WD 500gb model was extracted and installed internally and proved it wasn't good for OSing!

A second larger 1tb model was simply extracted right out of the box for internal use as well. Storage again!

Flash drives while much smaller capacity wise can also see other applications however. The preferred and "costly"! no doubt larger 32gb and 64gb models can be repartitioned and made into.... what was that again?

Data recovery sticks! When a Windows installation can't start up you can.. boot from a live Linux distro installed to the second partition(root) while the first is left as Fat 32(factory), exFat, or NTFS if the system supports booting from a flash drive. Just make sure to unplug your main drives if using the installer on a live cd when booted from to avoid seeing Grub installed into the mbr! But you install Grub to flash drive and use the first partition to recover data there.

One small tip for flash drives! As for external enclosures constant use leaves a bit too be desired since the casings sadly lack cooling and drives can run warm over extended periods. Once you back things up to one simply unplug it and set it aside until needed again. It does make for portability however for large transfers between more then one system(desktop or laptop).

 

[pparks1]

Having external hard drives is invaluable in my opinion. Personally, I would keep 2 of them strictly for backups. I usually back up to one drive about once per week and keep that in my house. I backup to the second one as well every week or two and I keep that offsite just in the case my house is robbed or burns to the ground. And with being as cheap as what they are...it's hard to believe that your data, pictures, and music wouldn't be worth it.

 

[Night Hawk]

They have their purposes no doubt. But they will tend to run much warmer if left plugged in constantly since they are not well ventilated to start with in most cases. In fact the first one bought here will be going back into the original casing or a better cooled external enclosure at some point.

 

[pparks1]

I don't worry about heat with my external drives as I only power them up long enough to make my backups usually.

I do use a 2.5" Western Digital Passport Essential drive that runs all day long at work and that drive stays cool even though it's on all day.

 

[clint]

Thanks for all the comments. I guess after reading some other peoples opinions my post was not so good. I should have stated are the USB external drives worth it to me (one always assumes the world revolves around only them LOL). I guess the external drives have dropped in price like all computer things do once the new wears off some. I do like to have my data filed away in a safe place just in case somethings happens, which that something does not happen nearly as often as it used to.

The first flash drive I purchased was for ready boost on vista. I'm one that will not load my computer up with pictures, music etc... I store them on cd's dvd's whatever, I'm obsessive over the fact of keeping any file off my hard drive that can be stored on removable media unless of course I access that file often. The ready boost was not even noticeable on my computer, and after reading some information on the net covering this.... my situation with over 90% of my hard drive free, and 3 gigs of memory may be one of the worse case scenarios to take advantage of ready boost. I plan to take full advantage of this external drive, and it's large storage by storing all my pictures, music, programs on.

I'm in no way wanting to hijack my own thread, however I researched the idea of using the hard drive from my old computer for a storage drive, however I didn't find any good information at all for doing so. I have a lot of questions I searching the forum, and the net as well on. I appreciate a good forum, and sharing opinions, and knowledge with people.... this forum seems to combine both of best worlds, outstanding forum, and outstanding people.

 

[Night Hawk]

Initially this was one of the main concerns about external drives. When running the WD 3.5" model the casing felt only slightly above room temperature having been on all day.

The smaller 2.5" models are less likely to run into any problems to start with having less mass to start with in order to generate any damaging heat. Here I would need a better cooled external enclosure suitable for both ide and sata drives alike due to restoration of older systems.

 

[whs]

I think external drives are a must. I would not have a system without at least 2 external drives - usually one 3.5" permanently attached and a 2.5" only attached when in use. I never had a heat problem with my drives and I own 5 different makes.
My main applications are Imaging (with Macrium and Norton Ghost) and off load of bulk data like videos and music - they run just as well from the external as from an internal.
USB drives are useful too. I use them to carry data and programs around as well as for special files. I also have a couple with Linux distros that I can boot from the stick when I feel like playing around with Linux. For Netbooks they are a must because of the lack of an optical reader.
My wife uses SD cards for storage. She uses 2 different Laptops and the SD cards have the advantage of not sticking out of the side like USB sticks and are thus less vulnerable.
Note: External disks should be formatted in NTFS and USB sticks should be formatted in Fat32.

 

[Night Hawk]

That brings to mind one older thread on how to make up a usb rescue device using a flash drive. http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-room/11844-using-other-os-usb-rescue-device.html

The preference of course is preventative steps such as regular backups to at least a second drive or external one since that will certainly offer the larger capacities to start with over a flash drive. The thread there however was intended more for those who were slightly "caught off guard" so to say not having been prepared for any disaster recovery in advance.

 

[whs]

Yeah, it's amazing how many people live a happy computer life being prepared for nothing. And then you get these urgent calls. "My system crashed and I lost all the pictures of the grand children". Answer: "take new pictures". Response to that: "They are 10 years older than those pictures". Final word:" Too bad, you have to plan for disaster".

 

[Night Hawk]

I have to agree with clint even more on that about having things backed up in more then one place such as removable media as well as any external HDs. What if? the external drive fails?!

You see solely counting on just one form of backup still isn't being "Fully Prepared" for any total catastrophe! If the backup is somehow toast when going to use it after an internal drive fails? ut ohhhhh.....!!!

With anything too important to lose multiple forms of backups is actually taking the needed steps. Backups on external drives obviously helps! Data dvds hold more then cd-r dsks too as another option. Flash drives are pocket sized for carrying those few personal items around with you. You backup the backup!

 

[noobvious]

I actually just burned my photos to DVD last week, as a just-in-case precaution. It would take quite a few of them to burn my music though.:shock:

 

[Night Hawk]

Once you elect to burn data disks be sure to check the integrity of the burns afterwards. Even with repeat burns of the same files to disk I've seen some that couldn't be read when going to copy them back on the drive at a later date.

That's where you have to backup the backup made of the backup!

As for downloads typically freewares, trial versions, betas, updates I worry less about those since that's only a matter of relocating them again as well as the download time. That's where a good sized external drive would suppliment the two internal drives used where some of those files being stored are actually for other older builds and their hardwares. The portable drive holds all the files you can transfer to or backup from another system entirely.

 

[thefabe]

I'm not sure it is a must but I like to have my 3.5 external for backups. Then i also use a 2.5 to keep essential programs on and take with me to do virus removals and testing on other peoples computers. That is when I used to do that kinda thing. Plus to transfer music, pictures,videos or programs to their systems. Fabe

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there
if you have a Blu Ray burner in your computer you can burn to BD-RE discs (re-writable) as these have a capacity of 25 - 50 GB each.

However I think even this solution is getting a bit dated since the costs of the empty media are almost per GB the same as an external USB disk drive.

I like to make more than one copy and different media too -- however with the speed and capacity of USB devices available consider having 2 or more USB disks -- those small "passport" self powered types are reasonably cheap and available with capacities of up to 500GB. 2 of these should give you enough backup to last a while and are VERY portable too.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[Night Hawk]

When going to upgrade one old XP case for someone to see the 7 Home Premium to go on I'll first download all drivers needed and place them on a 32gb flash drive. Once plugged into the old machine I'll proceed to backup the bare essentials like IE favorites and nuke the entire ide drive before replacing it with a new and larger sata model.

Later once a new build is seen for the same person then a larger external drive will likely be needed to back things up since 7 Pro will going onto that for the OS instead being that a new build will support the XP Mode and other things. I download here with a much faster connection over dial-up that person is on for checking the mail and web surfing only.