Using Microsoft Security Essentials in a company

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AV for a company with 800 users

Hi

We're looking for a good AV solution.
Can we use Microsoft Security Essentials in a company with 800 users?
What advantages and disadvantages of commercial using of MSE and can you really recommend?
 
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ThinkCentre Edge 71 (1578E1G)
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Windows7 64bit
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600S CPU @ 2.80GHz
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LENOVO To be filled by O.E.M.
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8.00 GB
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McAfee VSE 8.8 SP2
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SeaMonkey 2.24

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HP
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Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
Xeon W3520
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8 GB
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Nvidia Geforce 210
I personally feel no one should use MSE. I used it for several months and was very disappointed with it. It simply doesn't do an adequate job of protecting from viruses. Except for when it first came out, it consistently ranks amongst lowest in professional antivirus program tests. Many geeks like it because it has a small footprint and a low profile but that is of little value if it will let something through. Most also use a good antimalware program, such as Malwarebytes Antimalware to compensate for MSE's weaknesses but one should never depend on a secondary program to be a first line of defense (although MBAM is an excellent second line of defense). That's like justifying driving with bald tires because you have a good spare.

For a business with 800 users, you need to bite the bullet and shell out the shekels for a good enterprise antivirus program or suite. Most, if not all, free AVs are for personal use anyways. Keep in mind that the cost of a good AV program or suite will be tax deductible. I'm not very familiar with enterprise AVs other than Symantec Endpoint and McAfee and do not recommend either one of them.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
Thx a lot, but which AV solution can you really recommend?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ThinkCentre Edge 71 (1578E1G)
OS
Windows7 64bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600S CPU @ 2.80GHz
Motherboard
LENOVO To be filled by O.E.M.
Memory
8.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 2000 (Sandy Bridge GT1) 2172 MBytes
Sound Card
RealTek ALC662
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL E197FP
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 75 Hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD5003ABYX-01WER SCSI Disk Device
PSU
PC9059, 180W
Case
Desktop
Cooling
Noiseblocker BlackSilent XLP Rev. 3.00
Keyboard
DELL SK-8125 Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech USB Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
cable 75Mbps
Antivirus
McAfee VSE 8.8 SP2
Browser
SeaMonkey 2.24
It would be difficult to make meaningful suggestions as the specific needs of your organization are of great importance. We of course know nothing of this. You need to research what is available and evaluate this taking into account your specific situation. If there is no one in your organization experienced in such matters you would do well to seek the services of an experienced consultant. The consequences of getting this wrong are too great.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
Xeon W3520
Memory
8 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 210
It would be difficult to make meaningful suggestions as the specific needs of your organization are of great importance. We of course know nothing of this. You need to research what is available and evaluate this taking into account your specific situation. If there is no one in your organization experienced in such matters you would do well to seek the services of an experienced consultant. The consequences of getting this wrong are too great.

What himself said! :ditto:
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
I'm thinking that any company that has 800 users has a I.T. Department that takes care of Security programs and methods.
 

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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
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ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
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Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
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Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
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100 mbits
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.

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Dell Vostro 400/Dell XPS 8700(Slightly Customized for me by Dell)/Toshiba Satellite T135
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit/Windows 8 64-bit/Win7 Pro64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600/Intel Core i7 4790/Intel Pentium
Memory
2GB/16GB/4GB
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Intel G33/G31 Express(Vostro)/NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745(XPS)
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HP 2009m(Vostro)/ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED(XPS)
Screen Resolution
1600x900(Vostro)/1920x1080(XPS)
Hard Drives
Seagate ST3160815AS(Vostro)/Western Digital Blue(Satellite)
External:
Western Digital My Passport 0748
Samsung HM121HC
Keyboard
Dell L100)(Vostro)/Dell KB2133p(XPS)
Mouse
Dell M-UAV-DEL8(XPS)
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100 Mbit/s(Only when IPTV is plugged out)
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Avast, Malwarebytes PRO
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Internet Explorer 11
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Note: Names with slashes between two different parts mean that the left is my old desktop and the right is my old laptop and the middle is my new desktop.(Unless specified)
Ping is horrible for servers overseas in US and Europe.
New laptop:LG Gram(Not available in US) Processor:Intel Core i3 4th Gen Ultra Low Power RAM:4GB Hard Drive:SK Hynix OEM MSATA or M.2 Graphics:Intel HD
It would be difficult to make meaningful suggestions as the specific needs of your organization are of great importance. We of course know nothing of this. You need to research what is available and evaluate this taking into account your specific situation. If there is no one in your organization experienced in such matters you would do well to seek the services of an experienced consultant. The consequences of getting this wrong are too great.
This is the best advice you will probably get on this matter. MSE is not made for the corporate environment. Three are so many to choose from for the corporate environment and the one you choose will greatly depend on your setup.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
It would be difficult to make meaningful suggestions as the specific needs of your organization are of great importance. We of course know nothing of this. You need to research what is available and evaluate this taking into account your specific situation. If there is no one in your organization experienced in such matters you would do well to seek the services of an experienced consultant. The consequences of getting this wrong are too great.
This is the best advice you will probably get on this matter. MSE is not made for the corporate environment. Three are so many to choose from for the corporate environment and the one you choose will greatly depend on your setup.

:ditto:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
I personally feel no one should use MSE. I used it for several months and was very disappointed with it. It simply doesn't do an adequate job of protecting from viruses. Except for when it first came out, it consistently ranks amongst lowest in professional antivirus program tests. Many geeks like it because it has a small footprint and a low profile but that is of little value if it will let something through. Most also use a good antimalware program, such as Malwarebytes Antimalware to compensate for MSE's weaknesses but one should never depend on a secondary program to be a first line of defense (although MBAM is an excellent second line of defense). That's like justifying driving with bald tires because you have a good spare.

For a business with 800 users, you need to bite the bullet and shell out the shekels for a good enterprise antivirus program or suite. Most, if not all, free AVs are for personal use anyways. Keep in mind that the cost of a good AV program or suite will be tax deductible. I'm not very familiar with enterprise AVs other than Symantec Endpoint and McAfee and do not recommend either one of them.
Well since they are enterprise, it may be slightly better. But if their home AVs are not good, there is only a slight chance that the enterprise version is any better. (My opinion, no offense to those that use it)
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Vostro 400/Dell XPS 8700(Slightly Customized for me by Dell)/Toshiba Satellite T135
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit/Windows 8 64-bit/Win7 Pro64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600/Intel Core i7 4790/Intel Pentium
Memory
2GB/16GB/4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel G33/G31 Express(Vostro)/NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745(XPS)
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 2009m(Vostro)/ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED(XPS)
Screen Resolution
1600x900(Vostro)/1920x1080(XPS)
Hard Drives
Seagate ST3160815AS(Vostro)/Western Digital Blue(Satellite)
External:
Western Digital My Passport 0748
Samsung HM121HC
Keyboard
Dell L100)(Vostro)/Dell KB2133p(XPS)
Mouse
Dell M-UAV-DEL8(XPS)
Internet Speed
100 Mbit/s(Only when IPTV is plugged out)
Antivirus
Avast, Malwarebytes PRO
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
Note: Names with slashes between two different parts mean that the left is my old desktop and the right is my old laptop and the middle is my new desktop.(Unless specified)
Ping is horrible for servers overseas in US and Europe.
New laptop:LG Gram(Not available in US) Processor:Intel Core i3 4th Gen Ultra Low Power RAM:4GB Hard Drive:SK Hynix OEM MSATA or M.2 Graphics:Intel HD
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