Vertex3 performance issue

[COMPUTIAC]

Running ATTO now. Will also post Disk mgr.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Here we are.

 

[whs]

The Atto nums look very good - similar to mine. I focus only on the 4K numbers because that is the blocksize the system uses most of the time.

I am really puzzled why you get 29 seconds in Event 100. Given your gear, it should be below 20.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

So you are thinking there is nothing wrong with the drive ?

 

[whs]

Looks like the drive is OK. The bottleneck is in another place.

For a test, disable all startup programs and see what that does to event 100.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Looks like the drive is OK. The bottleneck is in another place.

For a test, disable all startup programs and see what that does to event 100.

What is the best way to disable them ?

 

[whs]

You can do it in msconfig > Startup button. I use WinPatrol because it is a bit fancier.

 

[essenbe]

Hold down the Windows key ( one with the flag on it) and press R key. Will bring up a run box. Type msconfig in the box and press OK. The window will appear, click the startup tab. Remember what is checked, but uncheck everything except the anti virus and windows sidebar, press OK and restart. Those are just the programs that load at startup. It does not mean you are disabling them, just they won't start on a startup.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

29516 ms compared to 33503 ms last time.
I did disable thru WinPatrol - Manage startup programs - left only Avast and WinPatrol running.

 

[whs]

For the test, disable Avast too. That may be the main culprit. Make sure you reenable it after the test. All the others can stay disabled for good (except those you started yourself - directly or indirectly - like sidebar as Steve says).

 

[COMPUTIAC]

29415 ms this time. Not much difference.
I did disable Avast thru WinPatrol but it started on its own anyway on startup. I disabled Acronis Startup Recovery Manager.

 

[whs]

The 29.4 sec is with Avast disabled - right? That is still too much. Enable Avast and the sudebar and leave the rest disabled. WinPatrol is your choice. It protects your registry, but you will get messages at time.

Next step would be to have a look what other processes (that do not show here) are starting. That is a bit delicate. There is a program you can run at boot that lists them all including the timing. But I forgot the name. Maybe Steve remembers.

You can run schtasks in cmd. That will list all processes that are scheduled. Maybe you see something unusual. But be careful and don't disable anything before we don't know what it is. Maybe you want to post the cmd output.

 

[essenbe]

WHS, unless it is Soluto, I don't remember.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\COMPUTIAC> schtasks

Folder: \
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
CCleanerSkipUAC N/A Ready
Microsoft_Hardware_Launch_ipoint_exe N/A Ready
Microsoft_Hardware_Launch_itype_exe N/A Ready
Microsoft_Hardware_Launch_mousekeyboardc N/A Ready
Microsoft_MKC_Logon_Task_ipoint.exe N/A Running
Microsoft_MKC_Logon_Task_itype.exe N/A Running
SUPERAntiSpyware Scheduled Task 34f2f133 12/1/2013 9:15:00 AM Ready
SUPERAntiSpyware Scheduled Task e9673454 11/29/2013 9:17:00 PM Ready
{FDFE6C4A-ED05-48EA-B206-EBAE5B78834A} N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
INFO: There are no scheduled tasks presently available at your access level.

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
INFO: There are no scheduled tasks presently available at your access level.

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Active Directory Rights Management Services Client
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
AD RMS Rights Policy Template Management Disabled
AD RMS Rights Policy Template Management N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Autochk
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Proxy N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\CertificateServicesClient
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
UserTask N/A Ready
UserTask-Roam Disabled

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Consolidator 11/30/2013 7:00:00 AM Could not start
KernelCeipTask 12/5/2013 3:30:00 AM Ready
UsbCeip 12/1/2013 1:30:00 AM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Defrag
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
ScheduledDefrag 11/30/2013 10:00:00 AM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Diagnosis
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Scheduled 12/1/2013 1:00:00 AM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\DiskDiagnostic
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataColl Disabled
Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticResolver Disabled

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Location
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Notifications N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Maintenance
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
WinSAT 12/1/2013 1:00:00 AM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
ActivateWindowsSearch N/A Ready
ConfigureInternetTimeService N/A Ready
DispatchRecoveryTasks N/A Ready
ehDRMInit N/A Ready
InstallPlayReady N/A Ready
mcupdate N/A Ready
mcupdate_scheduled Disabled
MediaCenterRecoveryTask N/A Ready
ObjectStoreRecoveryTask N/A Ready
OCURActivate N/A Ready
OCURDiscovery N/A Ready
PBDADiscovery N/A Ready
PBDADiscoveryW1 N/A Ready
PBDADiscoveryW2 N/A Ready
PeriodicScanRetry Disabled
PvrRecoveryTask N/A Ready
PvrScheduleTask N/A Ready
RecordingRestart Disabled
RegisterSearch N/A Ready
ReindexSearchRoot N/A Could not start
SqlLiteRecoveryTask N/A Ready
StartRecording N/A Ready
UpdateRecordPath N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\MemoryDiagnostic
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
CorruptionDetector N/A Ready
DecompressionFailureDetector N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\MobilePC
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
HotStart N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\MUI
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
LPRemove N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Multimedia
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
SystemSoundsService N/A Running

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\NetTrace
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
GatherNetworkInfo N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\PLA
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
INFO: There are no scheduled tasks presently available at your access level.

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Power Efficiency Diagnostics
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
AnalyzeSystem 12/10/2013 9:17:08 AM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\RAC
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
RacTask 11/29/2013 9:12:21 PM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Registry
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
RegIdleBackup 11/30/2013 12:49:42 AM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Shell
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
WindowsParentalControls Disabled
WindowsParentalControlsMigration Disabled

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\SideShow
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
AutoWake Disabled
GadgetManager N/A Ready
SessionAgent Disabled Could not start
SystemDataProviders Disabled Could not start

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\SystemRestore
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
SR 11/30/2013 12:00:00 AM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Task Manager
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Interactive N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Tcpip
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
IpAddressConflict1 N/A Ready
IpAddressConflict2 N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\TextServicesFramework
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
MsCtfMonitor N/A Running

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Time Synchronization
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
SynchronizeTime 12/1/2013 1:00:00 AM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\WDI
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
ResolutionHost N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
QueueReporting N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Windows Filtering Platform
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
BfeOnServiceStartTypeChange N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Windows Media Sharing
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
UpdateLibrary N/A Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\WindowsBackup
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
ConfigNotification 11/30/2013 10:00:00 AM Ready

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\WindowsColorSystem
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Calibration Loader Disabled

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Wininet
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
CacheTask N/A Running

Folder: \WPD
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
SqmUpload_S-1-5-21-2307473084-2108433777 11/30/2013 12:50:05 PM Ready

C:\Users\COMPUTIAC>

 

[whs]

WHS, unless it is Soluto, I don't remember.

Right, that is it. Thanks Steve.

 

[whs]

There is nothing unusual in the schtasks that I can determine.

Thanks to Steve we found Soluto. This is a good program. Have a close look at their webpage. But a word of warning. It can be a pain to uninstall it. Here are the uninstallinstruction.

If you use it, post a snip of the output.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Well I think I should remind you, I'm not too worried about the start up time as the overall performance, which appears to me to be sluggish at best.
I will run Soluto if you think it will help determine something pertaining to this.

 

[whs]

Soluto will only tell us something about startup. That is usually my first test because you can compare apples with apples with Event 100. And your times seem to be off - not a lot, but noticeable, especially with your rig.

But what exactly do you mean by 'the overall performance, which appears to me to be sluggish'. Do programs load slowly or do they execute too slow. Is it something when you are on the internet or what ??

 

[COMPUTIAC]

When I put this system together I expected to see a big difference in performance from my previous machine (HP p6720f) and I just do not see it. If it is not the SSD, then something else is not performing correctly.

 

[whs]

Yeah, but what exactly is it that does not meet your expectations.

I have 6 PCs from a 2007 duo core with 1.6GHz and 2GB of RAM to the XPS 8300 with an i7 and 8GB of RAM. All have SSDs. For most office type applications and on the internet, there is really little performance difference that I can see. My acid tests are Boot time and video encoding. With the latter you can see a BIG difference - even between the i5 and the i7 not to speak of the lesser systems.

So maybe you were expecting too much of a difference and the SSD is really OK - because the Atto numbers look fine.