Wake-On-LAN Deep Freeze

[Hagner]

Hello seven forums.
I'm currently trying to make my computer Wake on LAN with Deep Freeze.
I've followed this guide to it:
Windows 7 Issues: Wake-on-Lan (WOL) for Windows 7 Made Easy!
The message is getting sent from the Deep Freeze console computer, but the laptop doesn't start up from the command sent.
The laptop is a ASUS k53s with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.
I've went over all the settings I've made, I can lock it, freeze it, restart it, shut it down etc. But I can't wake it with LAN command.
Do you have any ideas on how to fix this?
Thanks in advance.
- Hagner

 

[OmegaZab]

ive used this when i worked at a college and we had to make sure the the network adapters settings were set to accept magic packets. depending on network setup i would check the properties of your card. it should then keep your adapter on after shutdown... hope this helps . i dont really check this particualar area of the forum so sorry if im slow at bouncing ideas off of

and oh boy i've had issues with this trying to wake up labs before classes

 

[Hagner]

I've already tried that, I even tried to get it to work without accepting magic packets, so it's just in general the network card can wake it up, but that didn't work either. For what I can see it's not even reacting on the packet the console is sending.

 

[OmegaZab]

ohh ya i forgot there was a bios setting on the newer dells we had gotten that had the mobo that had to do something with the magic packets as well and it didnt work with out it being turned on.. i guess im not sure how in depth asus bios is on your particular laptop. my old asus laptop had a pretty restricted bios

Isn't deep freeze fun!!! lol jk

 

[Hagner]

I already tried in BIOS, and there's nothing that indicated anything related to Wake On LAN, for what I could understand, it should be called something like power management. I had no luck with that either.
So I guess the laptop is pretty restrict in the BIOS settings.

 

[OmegaZab]

ah ya must be the only other way you may be able to sqeak around it is going to a usb or ummmm that one wide card (express card? my laptop doesnt even have one as i look and type) but seems to be getting rather complicated. what kind of network adapter is it (realtek,intel,and so on)?

 

[Hagner]

It has the realtek family controller shown in computer device, that's then one that it's connected on the network with.
I've tried both the magic packet option, and the normal one.
The problem is this assignment is for a customer, and he needs to be able to wake it on lan through the Deep Freeze Console so he can do remote maintenance on the computers (there's more computers, I just need to get one of them working and the rest should be fairly simple after that).

 

[Hagner]

I finally got Wake-On-Lan to work, now I need to get Wake-On-Wireless-LAN to work.
I didn't get all of the informations needed for this assignment, if I did I would have said that from the beginning.
- I'm in Device Manager ---> Power Management and I got two options:

• Allow the computer to turn off this unit to save power)
• Allow this unit to wake the computer (this option is grey, so I can't select it)

I'm not sure if I need the magic packet in order to get it to work, I hope not at least.
Any idea of how I can turn on this option?

 

[OmegaZab]

hmmm wireless adds a whole new demon to this project of yours

i have not ever gotten that to work right to be honest and at my old job our network was mostly wired (we had ports in the walls about every six feet so that wasn't to hard for the most part) i really think you are going to run into the issue of the manufacturer building this option into the wireless card you are speaking of. my Intel card on my laptop is in the same state as you describe. im not sure if a wireless card is able to hold a connection in a "powered off state" i know that in one of our computer careers labs we had to run a cisco wireless adapter to get a lot of things like this to work (once again desktops though not laptops :/) . i dont even have any wireless wake on lan options at that. I believe that some laptops may be able to keep a usb dongle away even when a laptop is shut off but of course that brings in more costs and external hardware hanging off of it.


as i poked around reading about wake on wireless lan (WoWLAN i like the abbreviation lol) i see this...
"Laptops powered by the Intel Centrino Processor Technology or newer[18] (with explicit BIOS support) allow waking up the machine using wireless Wake on Wireless LAN (WoWLAN)."

the explict bios support seemed to pop out at me

from = Wake-on-LAN - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


and this :/ Revolution Wi-Fi: Wake on Wireless LAN

 

[Hagner]

I've been emailing with Faronics today (Deep Freeze creators), and they said this:

Thanks for clarifying. Wake-on-LAN does not work over wireless; by the nature of how it works, wireless connections will block broadcasting which is fundamental to WOL functionality.

I hope this helps.

So I guess I can't do more from this point.

 

[denmyos]

I finally got Wake-On-Lan to work, now I need to get Wake-On-Wireless-LAN to work.
I didn't get all of the informations needed for this assignment, if I did I would have said that from the beginning.
- I'm in Device Manager ---> Power Management and I got two options:

• Allow the computer to turn off this unit to save power)
• Allow this unit to wake the computer (this option is grey, so I can't select it)

I'm not sure if I need the magic packet in order to get it to work, I hope not at least.
Any idea of how I can turn on this option?

Can you tell me how you got it to work.
I'm struggling with the same problem, i can reboot, thawed, freeze, but they will not wake up.
I'm using DF 7.21.220.3447

 

[Hagner]

I went to Device Manager --> found the Network card using the wire (It's on possible on Wireless) --> Power Management
Then you got a couple of options, this is what I have on the computer I'm using:

• Allow this computer to shut down this unit to save battery.
• Allow this unit to wake the computer.
• Allow only that magic packet can wake the computer

(it's translated from danish, so it might not be exactly as it is in an english windows)
- I've selected the last 2 in order to get it to work.
Remember to make all these settings, and other settings liked it, in thawed.

 

[denmyos]

I went to Device Manager --> found the Network card using the wire (It's on possible on Wireless) --> Power Management
Then you got a couple of options, this is what I have on the computer I'm using:

• Allow this computer to shut down this unit to save battery.
• Allow this unit to wake the computer.
• Allow only that magic packet can wake the computer

(it's translated from danish, so it might not be exactly as it is in an english windows)
- I've selected the last 2 in order to get it to work.
Remember to make all these settings, and other settings liked it, in thawed.

I'm danish

I can't find the danish translation to "wake on magic packet".
What the heck is that called in danish. "Vågn op med trylle pakke".

My Nic is generic Marvell yukon 88e8057 pci-e

 

[Hagner]

In danish the 3 options are called the following:

• Tillad, at computeren slukker denne enhed for at spare strøm
• Tillad, at denne enhed vækker computeren
• Tillad kun, at en magisk pakke vækker computeren

 

[denmyos]

In danish the 3 options are called the following:

• Tillad, at computeren slukker denne enhed for at spare strøm
• Tillad, at denne enhed vækker computeren
• Tillad kun, at en magisk pakke vækker computeren

If i disable the first one, the 2 rest will turn grey.

The way i see it, is that if you want it to WOL the "Tillad, at computeren slukker denne enhed for at spare strøm" has to be ticked, otherwise the
Tillad, at denne enhed vækker computeren
and
Tillad kun, at en magisk pakke vækker computeren

Will not be high lighted.

 

[Hagner]

Then you need to turn that one on.

 

[denmyos]

I updatet the driver, got some new functions concerning the WOL and turn the 3 options on.
That seems to work.

thx

 

[OmegaZab]

I've been emailing with Faronics today (Deep Freeze creators), and they said this:

Thanks for clarifying. Wake-on-LAN does not work over wireless; by the nature of how it works, wireless connections will block broadcasting which is fundamental to WOL functionality.

I hope this helps.

So I guess I can't do more from this point.

Yea there isnt much to do after the final word from faronics. that is too bad it would have been to good to know how or if that worked well hope i helped a little. was nice to respond to someone who is more than just a gaming nut

 

[Jaymes]

I am sorry to dig up an old post but I seem to be running into some issues here.

First off I want to state that I am an IT person for a couple Elementary schools. We use the deep freeze software to keep children from messing with things they dont need to, as well as keep a nice blank slate for the next user. With that being said we also use Cymphonix and Novell to filter the pages and files that students and teacher shave access to.

I have worked with WOL before, and I have it fully functional on our Windows Xp labs, but the problem lies with the Windows 7 labs.

I have enabled packets in the Bios, I have enabled packets on the NIC and I have set up Simple TCP/IP in windows programs and started it as a service.

I have followed the guide Windows 7 Issues: Wake-on-Lan (WOL) for Windows 7 Made Easy! and even this set up in this thread however when I send my wake up commands my computers do not wake up.

Some help with further investigation would be much appreciated!

Thanks,

Jaymes