What is an Easier Way to Move Google Chrome's Cache to Another HDD?

[RyougaLolakie]

I recently installed a 256gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD installed to my PC and I've been tweaking to optimize SSDs performance. Right now, I'm having trouble moving Google Chrome's Cache to a spare hard drive. Is there an easier way to do this without letting cache making unnecessary writes on the SSD?

 

[Layback Bear]

I know of no good reason to move cache. But if you have your heart set on doing so take a read of this tutorial. Your ssd and ram should handle any cache you are getting without any problem.

From your specs.

Memory 12 GB Corsair Dominator

By TurnkMonkey

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/312031-ram-disk-install-browser-cache-file-storage.html

 

[RyougaLolakie]

I know of no good reason to move cache. But if you have your heart set on doing so take a read of this tutorial. Your ssd and ram should handle any cache you are getting without any problem.

From your specs.

Memory 12 GB Corsair Dominator

By TurnkMonkey

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/312031-ram-disk-install-browser-cache-file-storage.html

Ah ok! I read the tutorial and I have one question, does this required an unallocated drive in order for this to work?

 

[Layback Bear]

I really don't know any more than what the tutorial explains because I have never done this my self. Like I stated in my first post; I know of no good reason to move cache.

Some member that has done this might be able to explain more than the tutorial does.

 

[RyougaLolakie]

I really don't know any more than what the tutorial explains because I have never done this my self. Like I stated in my first post; I know of no good reason to move cache.

Some member that has done this might be able to explain more than the tutorial does.

Oh ok! Guess I have to try this out on my own then. Thanks for the link.

 

[Ztruker]

Why are you moving the cache. Having it on the SSD makes use of it's faster speed so Chrome runs faster. Moving it to a slower drive slows Chrome down.

 

[RyougaLolakie]

Why are you moving the cache. Having it on the SSD makes use of it's faster speed so Chrome runs faster. Moving it to a slower drive slows Chrome down.

Yeah, but the problem is that if I use google chrome for a long time on the ssd, the writes have been increase and thus wearing out the cells of the drive. Now, to be honest, this is my first time owning the ssd and I optimized windows and Samsung magician to ensure the optimal performance and longevity of it. I even followed the websites on how to optimize the ssd.

While I've been done some researching, I realized that my motherboard has 2 6gbs sata 3 ports but they're from the Marvell controller, which most users despised it when running on SSDs and raid setups. I plug tthe ssd and hd don those. Yes, I'm using on an x58 motherboard which it's starting to become obsolete and don't have the funds on getting a new motherboard and cpu. Anyways, since the marvel controller doesn't support trim, I check the trim verifier and it's at 0, which means it's enabled from the os. I also used ssd life, hard disk sentinel, and crystal disk mark, and it shows that trim is enabled. Although it is uncertain whether trim is enabled through Microsoft ahci drivers or the ports themselves. I really don't want to install the Marvell drivers since I had troubles with them in the past when I post about the bsods I have which are relate to them thus reinstalling windows.

I also checked the alignment on the ssd and hdd and I'm positive that they're aligned which I use the disk part cmd and a calculator to check it. I also used as ssd program, and it shows both ssd and hdd shows "ok" on the left corner of the program window. So with that said, it's fine.

So yeah, moving the cache off the ssd seems like a good trade off disputed the slow speed on the hdd. :huh:

 

[Layback Bear]

1. You have reading old facts. SSD's of quality last a long time. They last as long as a hard drive if not longer.

2. Doing things like moving cache off the SSD does not help your system or speed up your system.

3. Seldom if ever does one need or want SSD's in Raid. Their is no advantage in 99% of users.

4. You are worrying to much about using your SSD. It's designed to be used. You have a Samsung 840 EVO SSD which is a quality SSD. Unless you get a bad Samsung SSD it will last longer than your computer and the hard drives you are using.

5. Just plug in your 840 and set it up using Magician and Windows 7 and enjoy them. That's it.

I understand your concern about Marvell Sata ports. They are junk. I have a Asus P6X58D-E motherboard and I use the Intel Sata ports. Marvell ports cause nothing but BSOD or other problems.

I have 5 SSD's and all I do is just use them. I don't baby them in any way. I just set them up using the manufactures Tool Box and use them. If I had to baby them I wouldn't of bought them.

The way the prices are going with SSD's (lower) I can't see me ever buying another hard drive unless for some strange reason I need to store several Gigs of data. I don't steal movies or music so I doubt I will ever need anything over 1 TB of storage.

On my system in my spec I use internal SSD, Hotswap SSD and a external SSD for back ups.
None of them have ever caused me a lick of problems.
The brands I use are Intel and Samsung because they have a great reputation for quality.

 

[RyougaLolakie]

1. You have reading old facts. SSD's of quality last a long time. They last as long as a hard drive if not longer.

2. Doing things like moving cache off the SSD does not help your system or speed up your system.

3. Seldom if ever does one need or want SSD's in Raid. Their is no advantage in 99% of users.

4. You are worrying to much about using your SSD. It's designed to be used. You have a Samsung 840 EVO SSD which is a quality SSD. Unless you get a bad Samsung SSD it will last longer than your computer and the hard drives you are using.

5. Just plug in your 840 and set it up using Magician and Windows 7 and enjoy them. That's it.

I understand your concern about Marvell Sata ports. They are junk. I have a Asus P6X58D-E motherboard and I use the Intel Sata ports. Marvell ports cause nothing but BSOD or other problems.

I have 5 SSD's and all I do is just use them. I don't baby them in any way. I just set them up using the manufactures Tool Box and use them. If I had to baby them I wouldn't of bought them.

The way the prices are going with SSD's (lower) I can't see me ever buying another hard drive unless for some strange reason I need to store several Gigs of data. I don't steal movies or music so I doubt I will ever need anything over 1 TB of storage.

On my system in my spec I use internal SSD, Hotswap SSD and a external SSD for back ups.
None of them have ever caused me a lick of problems.
The brands I use are Intel and Samsung because they have a great reputation for quality.

Old facts? Like those facts came out years ago? I understand that it was applied to the first generation of SSDs when I first read it. How come today's ssd's quality compared to the first gen ssds?

I also checked Samsung magician and checked virtual memory and it said that Samsung reccomend putting it on ssd and put 200 - 2000 virtual memory if your ram has more than 4gb on the ssd. Since the virtual memory was set on my 1tb storage drive, I'll put it back on the ssd. I mean, using virtual memory on ssd wouldn't wear the ssd, wouldn't it? I mean I really want to get the best of performance without much wearing. Since you have an ssd, which set of page memory would you suggest?

Sorry if I worry too much. You know how scary it seems when you taking care of expensive electronic equipment. ^^;

As for the Marvell stuff, indeed they are junk. Unfortunately on my case it is the only port that supports 6gbs on my motherboard. I mean, I really like to know if I put it on the ports I used on the 6gbs ports, would I still get benefit of trim command in windows with native windows drivers? I read that Marvell doesn't support trim. :X

 

[Layback Bear]

Don't worry about your pagefile or any other memory. Just let Windows 7 manage all memory.

This isn't like XP that we had to tweak to make it work proper.
Windows 7 is fully capable of handling all memory.
Windows 7 will use memory as it needs it, where it needs it and when it needs it.
All memory vartual or otherwise should be handled by Windows 7 on the C partition.
I have tried all the things you are asking about. As far as I'm concerned it's all B/S.
You will not see things lasting longer or working faster.

I gave up a long time ago trying to out smart Windows 7 on such matters.

Of course it is your computer so you can do as you decide.

 

[RyougaLolakie]

Don't worry about your pagefile or any other memory. Just let Windows 7 manage all memory.

This isn't like XP that we had to tweak to make it work proper.
Windows 7 is fully capable of handling all memory.
Windows 7 will use memory as it needs it, where it needs it and when it needs it.
All memory vartual or otherwise should be handled by Windows 7 on the C partition.
I have tried all the things you are asking about. As far as I'm concerned it's all B/S.
You will not see things lasting longer or working faster.

I gave up a long time ago trying to out smart Windows 7 on such matters.

Of course it is your computer so you can do as you decide.

Well, okay. I guess SSDs won't last if I done that, correct?

 

[Layback Bear]

No not correct.
If you set your SSD up using to tool offered by Samsung and Windows 7 it will last a long time.

If you do those other little do good tricks it doesn't hurt your SSD but it does no good to make your system run faster or better. You will not damage your SSD doing these tricks. Your SSD doesn't care what tricks you do. Your computer system cares. Windows 7 know what it likes and what it doesn't like.

Not doing those so called tricks allows your complete computer system to run it's best as it is designed to do.

Please remember this is not Windows XP. You do not need to do all those tricks when using Windows 7. Windows 7 pretty much takes care of itself. You do the basics and Windows 7 will take care of the rest of the stuff.

 

[RyougaLolakie]

No not correct.
If you set your SSD up using to tool offered by Samsung and Windows 7 it will last a long time.

If you do those other little do good tricks it doesn't hurt your SSD but it does no good to make your system run faster or better. You will not damage your SSD doing these tricks. Your SSD doesn't care what tricks you do. Your computer system cares. Windows 7 know what it likes and what it doesn't like.

Not doing those so called tricks allows your complete computer system to run it's best as it is designed to do.

Please remember this is not Windows XP. You do not need to do all those tricks when using Windows 7. Windows 7 pretty much takes care of itself. You do the basics and Windows 7 will take care of the rest of the stuff.

Ah ok! Understandable. I already set up all that using Samsung Magician and Windows 7, so I'm good to go. Plus, I enabled rapid mode. Only thing left was a decision whether I should put the page back on the ssd with the reduced page file or stay in the hdd. What do you think?

Here's the stuff I did for Samsung magician and windows:

- Disabled index searching/search
- disabled prefetch and superfetch
- enabled write-cache buffer flushing
- set power options for Samsung High Performance
- disabled system restore

Thankfully, windows automatically disable defragging on the ssd.

Now, my question is, no matter If I plug my ssd to the Marvell 6gb ports, do I still benefit the Trim function?

 

[Layback Bear]

I use System Restore points, they can be handy.
I just keep the disk space to no more than 5%

I also use Indexing. It makes searching for things quicker at times.

I also use superfetch and perfetch. I really can't prove whether it help or hurts speed.

Some use
- set power options for Samsung High Performance
If it doesn't cause problems keep it that way.

**Some people put more wear on their SSD testing it than they do using it.

Just set it and use it. You will enjoy it.

 

[RyougaLolakie]

I use System Restore points, they can be handy.
I just keep the disk space to no more than 5%

I also use Indexing. It makes searching for things quicker at times.

I also use superfetch and perfetch. I really can't prove whether it help or hurts speed.

Some use
- set power options for Samsung High Performance
If it doesn't cause problems keep it that way.

**Some people put more wear on their SSD testing it than they do using it.

Just set it and use it. You will enjoy it.

Good points on your settings. If those settings didn't hurt your performance, then good for you.

Call me wrong, but what you said about some people put more wear on their SSD testing than they do using it...you mean like doing benchmark and other stuff? Yeah, I read that it puts a lot of wear on those SSDs, especially when they do it repeatly and frequently. I honestly made the mistake doing it which kinda hurts my random writes performance, though I only did it a few times. At least the random reads and sub sequential read and writes are within spec but I avoid doing that in the future. Before that, the random writes are perfect. God, I feel so noob sometimes.

Now that I'm confirmed that trim actually works after I done using trim checker. I've been wondering how to activate garbage collection. I heard some say that you have to log out and wait a few hours while GC doing its course. Is this true?

Sorry that I'm being illiterate today. And oh yes, I'd enjoyed the speed increase on my SSD very much.

 

[Layback Bear]

Just Google it. Their are over one hundred thousand sites with all kinds of information.

Here are a couple.

Ask Ars: Of solid state drives and garbage collection | Ars Technica

The ultimate guide to proper SSD management | PCWorld

 

[RyougaLolakie]

Just Google it. Their are over one hundred thousand sites with all kinds of information.

Here are a couple.

Ask Ars: Of solid state drives and garbage collection | Ars Technica

The ultimate guide to proper SSD management | PCWorld

Thanks for the links! After I read it, it all makes sense now.

As for the storage drivers, I'm using windows ahci drivers. Although I'm curious if I use the Intel drivers or just stick with the windows drivers? If so, what are the benifits of using Intel drivers? I know that my mb has the Intel chipset, but will that work on the marvell ports? I mean, I have no problems with the Microsoft drivers.

 

[Layback Bear]

If the drivers you are using now give no problems just leave them alone.

 

[RyougaLolakie]

If the drivers you are using now give no problems just leave them alone.

Oh ok! Now, I have a problem. When I was in bios in disk manager, I saw those drives as SCSI devices. I think it's caused that I installed windows on the Marvell port and now it shows that in disk manager, but I saw it as a ata ACHI device. Of course, will trim work if the device as SCSI, even though it's set on ahci mode? Also, I switched to sata 2 ports after I read that Marvell controllers on x58 boards don't support trim.

 

[Layback Bear]

Are you having problems with your system?

Are you still playing with moving cache or other things around?

What else do you have hook to your computer?

Just hook your ssd to a Sata port (non Marvell) set your bios to default.

I know nothing about Gigabyte bios so I have no idea how you are seeing SCSI devices in Disk Management.