Solved When are windows updates worth installing?

jalnyc

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Hi everyone

I recently did a factory boot of my system so of course upon the first or second restart I was bombarded with about 140 windows updates! Maybe it's just me and my predisposed distrust for windows update, but my comp seems to be moving slightly slower now, but that isn't the issue right now.

Does anyone know how to tell when the recommended windows updates are a good idea to install? I usually just install the recommended ones. I'm doing this solely on the fact that the machine is telling me to since I don't know how to judge whether or not an update is needed. I would like to know if anyone has some sort of criteria before they accept a windows update.

Thanks!
 

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windows 7 home premium
I am going to give you the correct answer.

I am not going to give you the answer you want to hear.

First, Win 7 is NOT eXPired.

Second, carry out the following procedure perfectly.

UPDATING YOUR WIN 7
1. ASSURE THAT YOU RECEIVE ALL UPDATES
WIN | type WINDOWS UPDATE | ENTER |
Change settings (left-hand column) |
checkmark all four of the boxes | OK
button

Approve any dialog boxes presented. Let Windows install any update features.

WIN is the key with the Microsoft flag on top.

2. INSTALL CRITICAL UPDATES
Check for Updates
(left-hand column)
Install ALL critical updates.
Restart your computer (even if not prompted)

Repeat this procedure until there are no more critical updates.

DO NOT TRUST the “Windows is up to date” in center of dialog. until you see that TWICE IN A ROW!

3. INSTALL IMPORTANT UPDATES
Use the “critical update” procedure until all important updates are installed.

4. INSTALL OPTIONAL UPDATES
Use the “critical update” procedure until all optional updates are installed.

Under Optional updates you will be presented with a list of about 34 language updates.
You can hide those updates so that aren't continually notified of those updates. When you click on 34 optional updates are available, then you
a) highlight all of the language updates,
b) right-click anywhere in the highlighted list.
c) click on Hide Updates,
d) OK button.


UPDATE GOLDEN RULES

Install ALL, yes, ALL updates.
This is Win 7 and not Vista or XP (eXPired).

UPDATE IS HUNG –TAKING FOREVER
Hung is very doubtful unless you interrupted updates.

CTRL + SHIFT + ESC key combo will pop-up the Task Manager.
Lo and behold, Windows Update is still running!

You hold down the CTRL and SHIFT keys.
While holding them down, tap the ESC key once.
 

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Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Ok, got it!

Karl- I only see 2 check boxes in step 1, not 4. Also, what do you mean is not eXPired? I get the windows xp reference, just don't see what you mean. Thanks.
 

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OS
windows 7 home premium
Let me know when you are finished with the updates.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Ok they are all done.
 

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OS
windows 7 home premium
I would like to know if anyone has some sort of criteria before they accept a windows update.

Thanks!

If it's a critical update, and my machine says it's needed, it gets installed. I don't have the time or interest to try to read about each and every update, and then determine exactly whether it's needed in my usage scenario or not.

Microsoft released an update for 1 reason or another. Therefore, I think it's important to run it whenever possible. These updates fix security and stability issues.
 

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Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
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Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
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8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
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EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
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Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
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23" Acer x233H
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1920x1080
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Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
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Corsair 620HX modular
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Antec P182
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stock
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ABS M1 Mechanical
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Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
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Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
One suggestion regarding Windows Updates.

IF you have the time I suggest doing the updates in batches of 5 or so at a time, this way IF and it IS possible, you get an update that causes an issue you can isolate it easier and remove it.

NEVER use system restore to remove an update, always use the page that lets you remove the update properly.

As for whether or not you NEED all updates, well you CERTAINLY need all security updates, never fail to install these, at least then you have a pretty good assurance that you won't have other malware issues .

AGAIN DO NOT FAIL TO INSTALL ALL SECURITY UPDATES!

The other updates, again if you have the time peruse the description and decide if you need them.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
hp pavilion 6680t
OS
win 7 home premium 64 bit
CPU
core i5 760
Motherboard
iona (from MSI)
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ati 5450
Sound Card
real tek 888
Also, be sure to get the driver updates and any other optional updates (except Bing Desktop). Tose can help your pc. Be sure to have Windwos 7 Service Pack 1 and get Service Pack 2 when it comes out.
 

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HP Pavilion P7-1010
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Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1
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AMD Athlon X4 645
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Foxxcon N-Alvorix RS880
Memory
6GB DDR3 1066
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 5670 512MB GDDR5
Sound Card
Realtek Integrated Audio
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HP 2011x
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1600x900
Hard Drives
1. Crucial M4 128GB SSD
2. 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 RPM
3. 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green 5400RPM
PSU
Seasonic S12 II Bronze 380 Watt
Case
HP OEM
Cooling
Coolermaster Heatsink, AVC Case Fan
Keyboard
HP OEM- Made by Chicony
Mouse
HP OEM- Made by Logitech
Internet Speed
20MBit Down/4 Up
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Internet Explorer 10
Ok I think I got all the updates on there and my comp is running great.

Thanks to everyone for all their help!
 

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OS
windows 7 home premium
Yes you should download ALL the updates. Microsoft has created these for a reason.
I've never once had a problem installing updates on Windows 7. Anyway windows 7 creates System Restore points before it installs them, so if anything did go wrong you can rollback your system.

I only ever had problems installing a couple of updates on XP. So I do get Karl's eXPired reference! :D
 

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Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
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Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H
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Corsair Vengeance LP 32GB DDR3
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Corsair K70 RGB LUX
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Chrome
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StarTech PEXESAT322I 2 Port PCI-E SATA Card
ASUS PCE-AC56 Dual-band AC1300 Wireless Card
Akasa FC.Six Manual Fan Controller
And a Partridge in a Pear Tree!
Ok I think I got all the updates on there and my comp is running great.

Thanks to everyone for all their help!

thanks for the feedback and glad hear that all is great,
karl
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Also, be sure to get the driver updates and any other optional updates (except Bing Desktop). Tose can help your pc. Be sure to have Windwos 7 Service Pack 1 and get Service Pack 2 when it comes out.

I disagree about driver updates. I would be hesitant to upgrade my drives via Windows update. If I were to update drivers, I would do it from the manufacturer of my hardware itself.

Optional updates are just that, optional. It's your choice. personally, I skip them.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
MS will only suggest a driver update if it is more recent than your present driver.

Should you desire, after installing, you can always use Device Manager to roll back the driver update.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
^ All true and I agree. With respect to drives, I just choose to leave well enough alone if it's working fine.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
Sorry should have been a bit clearer on my earlier post.

I meant yes to all critical updates. Optional and drivers are completely up to the user.
I've always found the drivers for my hardware from the manufacturers site. With the exception of my tv tuner card, which seems to work better with the driver found by Windows Update. Not sure why though! :D
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
CPU
Intel i5 4690K
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H
Memory
Corsair Vengeance LP 32GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 1060 GAMING X 6GB
Sound Card
Onboard
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD (x2)
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB SSD (x2)
Crucial MX300 525GB SSD
WD Blue 2TB 5400rpm Intellipark Disabled (x2)
PSU
Corsair HX750i
Case
Phanteks Enthoo Pro
Cooling
CM Hyper 212 EVO on CPU, Noctua Redux NF-P14S 1500rpm (x6)
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB LUX
Mouse
Corsair Sabre RGB
Antivirus
Avast Free, MalwareBytes, SAS & CryptoPrevent
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
StarTech PEXESAT322I 2 Port PCI-E SATA Card
ASUS PCE-AC56 Dual-band AC1300 Wireless Card
Akasa FC.Six Manual Fan Controller
And a Partridge in a Pear Tree!
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