Which 64-Bit version of Windows for new I5-2500K System w/ 60gb SSD??

[theonethat]

Putting together my new system today and wondering what version of windows to go with.

What are the actual installed sizes of the different 64 bit versions of 7? As I understand it, I should go with "Professional" because "Ultimate" uses several gb more and doesn't do anything important with it? What about "Home Premium"- is it smaller? I can't seem to find REAL ACTUAL CLEAN INSTALL SIZES for each one ANYWHERE..

The SSD is only 60gb (A Corsair Force GT)... Obviously 7 is going to inhabit a huge chunk of whatever I am left with after formatting. A huge chunk.

Does anyone know if I can use something to create a custom install of 7?? You know, like that one program that makes an XP CD with only the features you want??? That way I could have a far far smaller 7 install??

How important are the Windows 7 SSD optimizations?? Like TRIM and all of that?? Is XP 64-bit usable at all?? I am told that finding drivers for it would be impossible and nothing would ever run right .... I have to have 64 bit OS to use the 16gb of ram..



THANKS!!

 

[zigzag3143]

Putting together my new system today and wondering what version of windows to go with.

What are the actual installed sizes of the different 64 bit versions of 7? As I understand it, I should go with "Professional" because "Ultimate" uses several gb more and doesn't do anything important with it? What about "Home Premium"- is it smaller? I can't seem to find REAL ACTUAL CLEAN INSTALL SIZES for each one ANYWHERE..

There are no "actual" sizes because each install contains different drivers.

The SSD is only 60gb (A Corsair Force GT)... Obviously 7 is going to inhabit a huge chunk of whatever I am left with after formatting. A huge chunk.

Dependant on what you add and remove and how much you game, win 7 will eventually consume ~ 40 gigs for 64bit

Does anyone know if I can use something to create a custom install of 7?? You know, like that one program that makes an XP CD with only the features you want??? That way I could have a far far smaller 7 install??

How important are the Windows 7 SSD optimizations?? Like TRIM and all of that?? Is XP 64-bit usable at all?? I am told that finding drivers for it would be impossible and nothing would ever run right .... I have to have 64 bit OS to use the 16gb of ram..

If you use 16 gigs of ram you do need 64 bit but realize that 16 gigs means another 16 gigs for the hibernation file (if you hibernate) and 16 gigs for a page file.


THANKS!!

You can run smaller on page file but not eliminate it.

 

[Golden]

Hi,

60GB is more than adequate for Ultimate x64 - I have that and the full Office 2010 professional + other bits & pieces installed to my 60GB SSD, and I still have 15GB free.

Regards,
Golden

 

[rraod]

You can forget Windows XP 64 bit OS and go with Windows 7 64 bit.

64 bit Windows 7 works very good with a decent system with more than 4 GB memory. I can say it works better than 32 bit system.

60 GB SSD is good enough for C: drive containing OS and applications for any version of Windows 7. You can select one type based on your requirement, but I would rather go with Ultimate version because it has everything.

As you have 16 GB of memory, you can get away with a small pagefile or no pagefile with Windows 64 bit version. My system has 8 GB and I tried Win 7 64 bit without a pagefile and had no problems.

About the 64 bit drivers availability, you will easily get Windows 7 64 bit drivers for all new hardware. Problem will be for older hardware. For example I did not get a full driver pack for a Xerox network printer/scanner I use in my office. I had to manage with a small 64 bit compatible driver which does not provide full functions for this printer.

 

[DeaconFrost]

Choose the version of Windows 7 that meets your needs. Very few people need Ultimate, or even Professional, for that matter. I'd start with Home Premium in your research and see if it has all you need.

 

[bobkn]

Putting together my new system today and wondering what version of windows to go with.

What are the actual installed sizes of the different 64 bit versions of 7? As I understand it, I should go with "Professional" because "Ultimate" uses several gb more and doesn't do anything important with it? What about "Home Premium"- is it smaller? I can't seem to find REAL ACTUAL CLEAN INSTALL SIZES for each one ANYWHERE..

The SSD is only 60gb (A Corsair Force GT)... Obviously 7 is going to inhabit a huge chunk of whatever I am left with after formatting. A huge chunk.

Does anyone know if I can use something to create a custom install of 7?? You know, like that one program that makes an XP CD with only the features you want??? That way I could have a far far smaller 7 install??

How important are the Windows 7 SSD optimizations?? Like TRIM and all of that?? Is XP 64-bit usable at all?? I am told that finding drivers for it would be impossible and nothing would ever run right .... I have to have 64 bit OS to use the 16gb of ram..



THANKS!!

The installed sizes of all of the versions should be the same, because all of the components of Ultimate are installed, even if they aren't available in the lesser versions. (That's why an "anytime upgrade" doesn't need the Windows DVD.)

60GB should be more than adequate for an OS disk, although it may drive you to installing your applications to your mechanical data drive.

 

[Saint Andrew]

Only a small amount of people use anyting past Professional. Home Premium should suite your needs.

60GB is more than enough for windows 7, etc..
You'll also have some space for data.

 

[theonethat]

I know that I will be able to get drivers for 7... I was hoping that I could run XP 64 bit, but I think that would just cause nightmares But 7 will work far better with the SSD, right?? Are we sure that all versions of install everything whether usable or not?? That sucks!! What about using se7en lite or something like that??

I have never used an SSD.. so far I know that I need to do this before installing OS

1. Update firmware
2. Enable ACHI

Is there anything else that I need to do?

Also - I have read that the winsx folder is not really as huge as the reported size to the OS- is that true?? I have seen that folder get up to 20gb and crazy nonsense like that.... How can I keep it from growing??

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Sounds to me like you are worrying far too much unless you know you are going to have a huge installation with hundreds of programs and dozens of games, all on the SSD.

I have 50 apps, with a total of 27 GB of occupied space on an 80 GB SSD. Winsxs is 7 GB.

You may not have to update firmware, depending on what you buy. There is a lot of outdated info on the web about SSDs.

Installation to a new SSD is about as painless as it can be. Be sure to unplug other drives. AHCI is the typical choice but not a major deal. Alignment should be OK automatically. Windows will recognize you have an SSD and make a few settings adjustments.

You should spend your time picking a drive. I'd point you toward Crucial, Intel, or Samsung.

 

[theonethat]

Why is it so difficult to find something like this? From Starter to Ultimate: What's really in each Windows 7 Edition? | ZDNet is it accurate?

 

[Britton30]

I recently installed a full Win 7 Ult to a 64GB SSD and moved my User and Program data to a separate HDD. The full install with NO programs was 15.5GB with all drivers. After moving those two folders, disabling Hibernate, and setting the Page file to 1536MB the install occupied less than 9.13GB on the SSD.
http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/208634-semi-new-build.html#post1747304
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...reate-move-during-windows-7-installation.html

Windows 7 is the first OS to support TRIM, XP does not.
Win 7 works at its best with a page file, but I've found it doesn't need 2 times your installed memory, which is how much will be allocted by the OS unless it is changed manually.

 

[M1GU31]

windows 7 premium is enough for me can have up to 16gb of ram which is more then enough only difference is pro and ultimate have I believe like two or three different features and support up to 128+ of ram which is unnecessary unless your running a demanding sever. Just my piece of advice and how i view things.

 

[AddRAM]

If you don`t need the few extras that pro and ultimate can give you then Home Premium will be fine.

 

[Darkelk]

Aslong as it's a fresh install on an SSD it's not a problem. just put whatever you can (pagefile etc) on your storage drives. It's hard to point out what to go for right now because I see so many warranty's being done for just about every drive at work, but I'd suggest something like OCZ Agility 3 60G(or 120G) SATA3 SSD. I'll be buying one myself soon.

Generally most people will put their nearest and dearest programs, applications and games into their SSD alongside their OS. Anything that doesn't need to be there, Store on another drive.
http://umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2=159&bid=6&sid=75951

 

[DeaconFrost]

Why is it so difficult to find something like this? From Starter to Ultimate: What's really in each Windows 7 Edition? | ZDNet is it accurate?

It isn't difficult at all. You should have gone right to the source. Two mouse clicks later, and you'd have the comparions sheet.

Compare Windows - Microsoft Windows

As for the size, no, that isn't accurate because it will change for each computer. Drivers, AV packages, etc will all take up different amounts of space. But, with some quick research and reading through the answers here, you'll find that 60 GB is more than plenty for a system volume.