which phenom black

[ganjiry]

hi folks
just after a little advice again. im gonna buy an AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition. i was originally gonna get the 965 3.4Ghz but im thinkin i may get the 955 3.2Ghz instead.
i mainly use my pc for gaming. (battlefield3 on the horizon) and burning,copying movies.
so my questions r. is there much difference in performance between the 2?
will the stock heatsink b ok? it looks it. or should i go for Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 CPU Cooler?
this is the mobo im using Gigabyte 880GA-UD3H rev 3.1

thanks in advance for ur help folks

 

[Britton30]

No, there won't be any noticeable difference between 3.2Ghz and 3.4 Ghz, but they are very close in price, so go with the 965 Black Edition. I have one and ran it to 4.0Ghz, but I don't play games.

Just checked Newegg and there is $21USD difference.

 

[Fluffy]

For a little extra I would go for the 1090T

 

[essenbe]

Either would be a good choice, but like Britton said for $21, go for the 965 Black. If you are not going to OC, the stock cooler would be OK. If you are I suggest an aftermarket cooler. Check out the reviews on the Artic freezer and look at the Hyper 212+ also.

 

[ganjiry]

cheers chaps. as u say ive found that the price is only a couple of £ difference. on ebuyer they r the same price. so may aswell get the 965. and no it will b a few yrs b4 i think about overclockin anythin. ive no need at the min.
cheers folks

 

[ganjiry]

hi all
a bit of advice for anyone planning on gettin a phenom 965 BE. DONT use the stock HSF it is sooo loud. its doing my nut right in, need a freezer

 

[LiquidSnak]

I recommend Zalman and Thermaltake CPU coolers

 

[Britton30]

I am using This Enzotech. It was easy to install, cools well, and can be mounted in different directions. I have mine mounted so the air flow goes over my RAM sticks.
The stock cooler is noisy because it has such a tiny fan thereby needing to run at jet speed to get the airflow up.

 

[ganjiry]

agreed! lol i havent got enzotech money does look the part tho. im ordering an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 2moz which i believe can b mouted sideways too. i only installed my cpu on weds using the pre applied thermal paste n my idle temp is still a tad high 44c @idle and 55c ingame. is my temp likely to come down anymore? ive also ordered some arctic silver5 is there much difference between that and the pre applied one? it looked a tad thick.

 

[Britton30]

Yes, Arctic Silver is supposed to be very good, it is what I used too. The factory paste is not very good. Just put a rice-size glop of the Arctic in the center of the CPU, lower the cooler on it and apply some pressure while rotating it and tighten it up. don't take it off to see if it spread, it does. I've had to use a screwdriver to pry a cooler off using this method. Works very well. You will be, well, cool, man.

 

[ganjiry]

lol yeah i looked at a few threads earlier about that argument. rice size n press heatsink or spread it over. to me it seems rice n press would b the better option.

 

[essenbe]

I agree about Arctic silver. You may find these instructions helpful.

 

[ganjiry]

cheers folks

 

[LiquidSnak]

agreed! lol i havent got enzotech money does look the part tho. im ordering an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 2moz which i believe can b mouted sideways too. i only installed my cpu on weds using the pre applied thermal paste n my idle temp is still a tad high 44c @idle and 55c ingame. is my temp likely to come down anymore? ive also ordered some arctic silver5 is there much difference between that and the pre applied one? it looked a tad thick.

I don't have a quad core, but I have been using ceramique by arctic silver for years, and I run ~25 degrees C under load with my zalman. With the stock paste, I run about 30 (acceptable, but 25 is better )

 

[ganjiry]

agreed! lol i havent got enzotech money does look the part tho. im ordering an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 2moz which i believe can b mouted sideways too. i only installed my cpu on weds using the pre applied thermal paste n my idle temp is still a tad high 44c @idle and 55c ingame. is my temp likely to come down anymore? ive also ordered some arctic silver5 is there much difference between that and the pre applied one? it looked a tad thick.

I don't have a quad core, but I have been using ceramique by arctic silver for years, and I run ~25 degrees C under load with my zalman. With the stock paste, I run about 30 (acceptable, but 25 is better )

i did wonder what the difference was. ive ordered the arctic silver 5 now but if that doesnt do the job ill giv it a try
cheers

 

[LiquidSnak]

The difference between arctic silver and their ceramique is the silver in the compound replaces the ceramic in the ceramique. It's cheaper, which is why I have a ton of it for builds. Cheap + effective = winning. Arctic silver supposedly out-performs ceramique, but I haven't used it on my personal builds

 

[ganjiry]

ok cheers

 

[Britton30]

RE the article Essenbe posted, I wouldn't "tint" the cooler as they said. That is a good way to introduce air bubbles and uneven spreading.
(No offense meant Steve)

 

[ganjiry]

cheers but im not planning to. rice size grain n let spread by pressin HSF down

 

[essenbe]

RE the article Essenbe posted, I wouldn't "tint" the cooler as they said. That is a good way to introduce air bubbles and uneven spreading.
(No offense meant Steve)

No offense taken. But I always tint mine. It works.