Which Sandbox Is Bully Proof?

SmittysDimple

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Did I get your attention? I truly do need a sandbox. I think. I am new to Win 7 - old XP diehard.
My new laptop ( win 7 pro 64 bit ) was purchased for the sole use and safety to process credit cards virtually. Yes....small business. Though I do not web search unsafely, I have the need to be extremely
safe while processing. I am very confused with all the info. Checked http://www.sevenforums.com/system-security/359832-best-protection-against-malware.html and binged all that were mentioned. Still at a loss. Free would be great if applicable. My pci compliance is due - I always pass :). But Transarmor know "pings" merchants computers for security issues. I use Avast free - MAB so far... JRT / Ccleaner / etc used regularly..any recommendations would be helpful.
 

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Elitebook 8530P refurbished certified
OS
Win 7 Pro 64
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Mozilla
i think you meant 'bullet proof'. unless you are being harrassed by a big kid at school. :)

i use a software security suite with a firewall & anti-malware, anti-exploits, hips, ip blocklists/blacklisting, etc. it also has web controls and sandboxing feature.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Custom build Nanu by 3SX
OS
Win 7 ultimate x64 sp1
CPU
Intel i7 4 core 3770k ivy bridge o/c to 4.2ghz
Motherboard
Asus p8z77-i Deluxe
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia geforce GTX650
Sound Card
Realtek on mb
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24in. lcd/led
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1920x1080
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128GB Kingston SSD
500GB seagate maximus xt hybrid
500GB hitachi HD
500GB external WD Passport usb3
PSU
Silverstone 450 watt
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Silverstone FT03 Black Fortress
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Water cooler
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Logitech wireless kbd/mouse mk300
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Logitech wireless kbd/mouse mk300
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8mb adsl (actuall speed is around 6mb)
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Asus DSL-N55U wireless router
SONY BC-5850H 6X BLURAY writer
OUTPOST Security Suite

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Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.

My Computer

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Laptop
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HP Elitebook 8530P refurbished certified
OS
Win 7 Pro 64
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Mozilla
There is nothing that is bullet-proof, every piece of software has probably bugs that can be exploited and you have to live with that, knowing and mitigating the risks. The only 100% effective way of being "safe" is to keep the computer powered off :p.

Backing to reality, you may look at the built-in security methods that Windows has, often more reliable than 3rd party crapware. Isolating the programs from others is easily done with a second user account. If you have critical programs, create a new user account (of course without administrative privileges) and run that program under that account exclusively. This can be done with the "run as another user" context menu of exe files.

This way the critical program is isolated from your user account, meaning that it has NO access to your private files (sandboxes sometimes give read-only access), no permissions to do system-wide changes and no possibility to interact with anything else in the system. This gives in practice most benefits sandboxes have, without the need of external software. This is the approach Android uses for added security, BTW.

Of course that's not immune to other problems. Malware that has managed to have system-wide access also harms you in this case, but then you have greater problems to begin with. Just be sure to use that extra account for running that program and nothing else, and of course don't accept UAC prompts from it.
 

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Laptop
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Toshiba Sattelite A665-S6092
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i7-740QM
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 330GT
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 SSD 500GB
1TB USB3 external HD
Cooling
Coolermaster Notepal U3 notebook cooling pad
Internet Speed
3mbps ASDL
Antivirus
ClamWin 0.98.7
Browser
Opera 12.17 x86 (main), Firefox 38 (sec), IE11 (last resort)
Alejandro is correct, their is no 100% safe if you use the computer.

You starting this thread is a good start. It shows your concern for safety.

Many if not most security problems start with the person behind the keyboard. Even with the proper security programs the person behind the keyboard can let bad things in their computer.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Some very good info indeed. :grouphug: My main concern is safety while online processing thru virtual gateway. Maybe I am confusing myself over the sandbox need. I do not save customer data. I do a complete clean / virus / malware before and after each online gateway session. What would be the most reliable option based on online security, besides a dedicated user account?
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Elitebook 8530P refurbished certified
OS
Win 7 Pro 64
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Mozilla
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