Which Systems Support Win 7 ?

[user77777]

I heave heard recently , that the "latest" PC's will not work with Win 7 .
Can someone please elaborate on this .
Which systems will , and which will not , work with Win 7 .
Is it the chipset here which affects things here ?

 

[Snick]

Hi user77777,
Microsoft contends that the new Skylake processors will not run win 7, 8.1. Here's an article on it to peruse.

Microsoft says new processors will only work with Windows 10

Nic

 

[SIW2]

Snick,

That is wrong.

Amd has released drivers to run win7. Works great with Threadripper.

Intel are less helpful.

Skylake is officially supported. Win7 runs fine on Kabylake as well.

It is just a matter of adding the correct drivers.

However, USB ports won't work on Intel H370 , B360 and H310 chipsets.Therefore use an external PCI controller for those.

 

[Snick]

@SIW2, you are a plethora of awesome information! Great Day when you learn something new!

Nic

 

[ian50]

SIW2


"Therefore use an external PCI controller for those"


What specifically does that mean, please ?

 

[SIW2]

SIW2


"Therefore use an external PCI controller for those"


What specifically does that mean, please ?

Inateck KTU3FR-5O2U Superspeed 7 Ports PCI-E to USB 3.0 Expansion Card - 5 USB 3.0 Ports and 2 Rear USB 3.0 Ports Express Card Desktop with 15 Pin SATA Power Connector, Including Two Power Cables: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

That is a fancy one. Cheaper versions are available at about half the price.

 

[Snick]

@ian50

PCI stands for Peripheral Component Interconnect and is an industry standard bus for attaching peripheral devices to a computer. The PCI Simple Communications Controller is a generic label that Windows gives to installed PCI boards in Device Manager, when the drivers for the device are not installed.

 

[ian50]

Thanks for the prompt reply


But - won't work for notebook machines ?

 

[ian50]

Snick


Thanks, but we already knew that.

 

[SIW2]

Thanks for the prompt reply


But - won't work for notebook machines ?

No. But you only need one if you have the following chipsets:
Intel H370, B360 and H310 chipsets

Atak has made a thing that can install all the drivers into the installation media. It is a big download because it includes everything for Intel and AMD. It also takes a long time to do the job.

 

[ian50]

> "But you only need one if you have the following chipsets:
Intel H370, B360 and H310 chipsets"


Very helpful. Thanks

 

[user77777]

Thanks everyone for all that good info .
It would appear to me , as one looking to avoid trouble , I may have no choice but to finally surrender
to Microsoft's strong arm tactics and grudgingly move on to Win 10 .
Is there that much of a performance hit from Win 10 relative to Win 7 ?

 

[SIW2]

No, but there are plenty of annoyances.

 

[user77777]

Thanks SIW2 - can you elaborate ?

 

[Snick]

SIW2 post #13

 

[GEWB]

Last month I built a new AMD Ryzen 7 2700X on an MSI X470 motherboard. Had to finesse the install a bit (forgot what but it was related to a driver that I needed to include during install). Overall it wasn't any more difficult than a tpical Win7 install from five years ago. It runs very well with only a bit of lag on some disk activity functions upon launch but then it flys. Programs run great, really fast compared to my older Intel 3.2GHz system.

 

[goopy]

Snick,

That is wrong.

Amd has released drivers to run win7. Works great with Threadripper.

Intel are less helpful.

Skylake is officially supported. Win7 runs fine on Kabylake as well.

It is just a matter of adding the correct drivers.

However, USB ports won't work on Intel H370 , B360 and H310 chipsets.Therefore use an external PCI controller for those.

Greetings SIW2.
Came across this pleasant surprise from you while searching for some i7 7500 NUCs.

Some advice needed:


1. Do you mean that apart from USB3, intel w7 drivers for chipset, graphics, sata, usb2, land and wifi are working for kabylake?
2. Will the OS install and run without modification?
3. Appreciate if you could share the "annoyances" experienced using such a setup.


Many thanks and best regards,

 

[SIW2]

I haven't done it for KabyLake myself. Many reliable sources say it isn't too difficult.

You will need to add drivers, and use the little thing that ensures you get future updates. but otherwise there aren't any "modifications" to as far as I know.

Atak has a thing that will integrate all that is needed into the install.wim and boot.wim. It is massive, because it also includes the AMD drivers. You can delete those before you do the integration.

Windows 7 Image Updater - SkyLake\KabyLake\CoffeLake\Ryzen Threadripper - VideoHelp Forum


The way I would use it:

1. Install updates into the wim image using dism++

2. Delete the stuff you don't need from the drivers supplied by Atak.If you delete any of the stuff from the Atak supplied \Windows7\Import\Windows\Setup\Scripts\
I suggest you comment out or remove the relevant lines from the SetupComplete.cmd

3. Use Atak's UI to integrate the drivers - UNTICK "Integrate updated installer", "Integrate updates" and
"Apply to all editions"

Like this:

 

[asewerf]

I'm considering getting a laptop with an i5-8300h and a 1050. Would it be very difficult to get win 7 on this machine? I'm not sure if it's running the mobo that would require the external pci controllers mentioned or not.

 

[SIW2]

Maybe you could take a look at the specifications to find out.