Why 32bit?

[z3r010]

I just dont get why there is a 32bit Windows 7 are there any 32bit PC's left?

Edit
Just noticed I didn't even get first post on my own forum!!

 

[dmex]

I just dont get why there is a 32bit Windows 7 are there any 32bit PC's left?

Edit
Just noticed I didn't even get first post on my own forum!!

LOL, The honor was all mine

Yeah its weird but 32bit is still being used as default on ever computer down under in Australia and I guess many other places?

Steven

 

[z3r010]

But think about it, by the time 7 is released everybody will be using 4gig or more of ram, and the people that aren't, well they really shouldn't be running Microsoft's latest OS.

 

[chinga69]

But think about it, by the time 7 is released everybody will be using 4gig or more of ram, and the people that aren't, well they really shouldn't be running Microsoft's latest OS.

well i would love to use 4 gig of ram or more but there is a problem with pciE tv cards that is still no fixed to my knowledge maybe by the time 7 is released it will be but i doubt it

im sure there are still plenty of other issues still to be resolved for the 64 bit systems as well.

ps i am full time 64 bit vista just stuck with max 3 gig of ram and cant wait to play with windows 7

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

Hello all!

Most people aren't ready for 64-bit as THIS THREAD from x64 points out.
This guy is going to go back to XP so he can run the program in question.
I believe 64-bit is the future; to many people still live in the past.
Not that it matters, can you imagine the fuss the "beloved XP" crowd
would raise if MS went only 64-bit with *7*.

Just my two cents.


Later Ted

 

[d0od]

i think it's a kind of "chicken and egg" dilemma.

people don't wan to go 64 bit because there aren't enough/favorite program's/drivers don't work on 64bit, and developers don't make any 64bit drivers because not enough people use it...

I used 64bit Vista even when i only had 1.5GB ram - mainly because i knew i was gonna get 4gb + at some point - which i now have! Also, i use AMD 64x2 so 64bit is gonna work better in theory.

I think Microsoft are aware of a lot of legacy PC's about the place and don't want to alienate them and thus reduce profits....

I haven't actually had any issues with Vista 64bit - only one or two very niché programmes don't work - everything else does!

 

[johngalt]

I think there is more to it than just that - many testers out there are not going to put a testing OS on a production / mission critical machine. Until it is shown that Windows 7 plays well in a VM environment, I suspect that many people are going to polish off older machines to try out the new OS, to keep it from b0rking their system(s).

My old P4 ran Vista pretty well, so should have no real issues putting windows 7 on there for now....

 

[dmex]

i think it's a kind of "chicken and egg" dilemma.

people don't wan to go 64 bit because there aren't enough/favorite program's/drivers don't work on 64bit, and developers don't make any 64bit drivers because not enough people use it...

I used 64bit Vista even when i only had 1.5GB ram - mainly because i knew i was gonna get 4gb + at some point - which i now have! Also, i use AMD 64x2 so 64bit is gonna work better in theory.

I think Microsoft are aware of a lot of legacy PC's about the place and don't want to alienate them and thus reduce profits....

I haven't actually had any issues with Vista 64bit - only one or two very niché programmes don't work - everything else does!

Thats so true, Vista 64bit runs very well here minus a few selected programmers/apps refusing to update their software for 64bit anytime soon, minus that it runs damm better than 32bit

I still use 32bit quite often and I hope they dont remove patchguard or 64bit will end up being just like 32bit is now...

I think there is more to it than just that - many testers out there are not going to put a testing OS on a production / mission critical machine. Until it is shown that Windows 7 plays well in a VM environment, I suspect that many people are going to polish off older machines to try out the new OS, to keep it from b0rking their system(s).

My old P4 ran Vista pretty well, so should have no real issues putting windows 7 on there for now....

lol Yeah, my old p4 used to run the first Longhorn alphas for "awhile" and I'm guessing my Core duo will be able to run Win7 for awhile too before getting considered part of the "minimum requirements"

Steven

 

[eggyuk]

I think computer sellers are a major part of the problem. My dad is currently looking for a new computer so i've been going round the local independant stores (i avoid pcworld etc at all costs!) getting prices etc and when i ask them if they offer 64 bit they are all saying yes they do but they wouldnt recommend anyone other than technicians get 64 bit due to the issues that may possibly arise. If these sellers don't push 64 bit then its gonna be slow to really enter the mainstream.

 

[davehc]

If you have updated hardware, 64bit capable, there are no "issues" with Vista 64bit.
To run Vista 32bit, if you really wanted it to hum, may have needed, in many cases, a little cash spent on better graphic capabilities and, possibly, more ram. 64bit was a slightly bigger step and more expensive - it would have required a look at your motherboard/CPU among other things. There we get into the area of buying a whole new computer
I have a computer which runs 32bit perfectly. Although it is "64bit capable" It struggles with 2gbs of Ram and an antiques ATI 9600 pro graphics card - but it works, I dual boot.
Like so many others (I'm a pensioner!) I do not have the budget, at the moment, to spend cash on the needed upgrade.
It should be pointed out, however, that the software (excluding drivers) is not a problem. I have 39 programs which I migrated from XP to Vista 32bit. I have never had a problem with them. Ditto, the same programs installed on the 64 bit version, in the x86 directory, and also run 100%.

 

[dmex]

But think about it, by the time 7 is released everybody will be using 4gig or more of ram, and the people that aren't, well they really shouldn't be running Microsoft's latest OS.

I had a discussion about that with a few poeple, we where thinking its because the amount of things not supported on 32bit like Flash and a few other bits of needed software and things like the amount of people saying they would skip Vista for Windows 7, hence the reason why Microsoft probably didn't want to alienate all the same users once again..

If there was a 1 for 1 copy of all the software used on 32bit under 64bit plus minus the whingers and the heap of news storys who said they would skip Vsta for windows 7, I bet they would have made it 64bit only...

Even if Windows 8 was going to be the first 64bit only release they would still end up making a 32bit edition because I head the same statement from Microsoft about server 2008, They said it was only going to be 64bit yet I have a 32bit edition disk

 

[Element]

Eventually the hardware is going to outpace the software in terms of usage and manufacturing. In essence forcing the software developers to scramble to make their programs 64bit. Right now they are still open to leaving them at 32 bit because the 64bit platform of hardware isn't dominating the market share yet. However in the next few years I can see that changing drastically.

Currently there are very few developers even embracing 64bit because the consumer market isn't demanding it. So what is going to happen when the hardware market outpaces the software market? I think there will be a HUGE rush to rewrite or recode certain software to 64 bit platform to accommodate the great advances in software, but I could be wrong.

I was last under the impression that MS had stated they wanted Windows 7 to be the first complete 64bit only released OS, but I guess they have to do what is best for the company in the long run to make and continue to make a profit.

 

[Adamd]

Well if they are going to release 32bit I just hope they focus even more on 64 bit like Vista and make it better or 100% just as good as 32 bit

 

[Everlong]

I just dont get why there is a 32bit Windows 7 are there any 32bit PC's left?

Edit
Just noticed I didn't even get first post on my own forum!!

I did read just before Vista came out that the next Windows would just be 64 bit, but I guess they gave in to everyone asking for 32bit still, like they did with increasing the XP support.

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

They are saying that 7 is the last 32-bit OS!













Later :shock: Ted

 

[skunksmash]

POINTLESS!!!!!

x32 is DEAD!!... everything should be x64 by default from this point on.

they obviously wanna grab those extra pennys from the ppl still running x32 H/W
which is ''catch 22'' really seeing as those x32 rigs wont run Vista happily & will struggle even more with W7 :sarc:

for ppl to get the best experience from a new OS they need a good H/W base to start from, M$ should state ....
''it will not run on older tech'' ..&.. ''this will be a x64 release ONLY!!'', so the ppl who use it will love it from the outset

unlike the Vista fiasco where users with crap machines became ''Vista haters'' b/c it failed to work properly...

just my penny's worth.

SK

 

[z3r010]

How many people will be using less than 4gig of ram by 2010 anyway!!

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

How many people will be using less than 4gig of ram by 2010 anyway!!

These kind of people ...

excessive memory use 'heavy' sites - Vista Forums

Cleaning the (Recover D) drive - Vista Forums

system is a 64 bit, and it needs to be 32 bit - Vista Forums

And my first post in this same thread ...

Most people aren't ready for 64-bit as THIS THREAD from x64 points out.
This guy is going to go back to XP so he can run the program in question.

Some people will never be ready for the future!


Later :shock: Ted

 

[Fizban]

But think about it, by the time 7 is released everybody will be using 4gig or more of ram, and the people that aren't, well they really shouldn't be running Microsoft's latest OS.

Nah 2 GB is honestly still plenty of RAM. My laptop has 2 GB RAM and runs windows 7 flawlessly and can also play games from a few years ago at beautiful framerates. Not as sure about new games simply because I haven't bought any recently, but it plays Oblivion at 60-80 fps when the video card is overclocked. In fact I'd say 4 GB of RAM is overkill still for most people.

 

[Fizban]

unlike the Vista fiasco where users with crap machines became ''Vista haters'' b/c it failed to work properly...

just my penny's worth.

SK

Agreed. Mind Vista pissed me off a few times, specifically when Windows Update corrupted my USB drivers; but most people I know that disliked it had put it on PC's that in my eyes had no business running XP, let alone Vista. You put Vista on a PC with 512 MB RAM and then bitch about it not running fast....go figure.