Why shouldn't I switch to Windows 10 now? Why is 7 the preferred OS?

raiko

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Just wondering: Why shouldn't I switch to Windows 10 now? Why is 7 the preferred OS? I'm a newbie to operating systems, and genuinely prefer Windows 7's overall style and feel over Windows 10, but I know Windows 10 is supposed to be faster and overall more smooth than Windows 7. I'm a casual gamer and programmer, so I'd like to hear why others do not upgrade to Windows 10.

:cool:
 

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Windows 7 64-bitIntel Core i5 3570 @ 3.40Ghz16GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @686MhzAMD Radeon 7870
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PC/Desktop
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Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 64-bit
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Intel Core i5 3570 @ 3.40Ghz
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AsusTek P8Z77-V LK (LGA1155)
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16GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @686Mhz
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AMD Radeon 7870
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2TB Hitachi HDS723020BLE640 ATA Device (SATA)
Ten is more stable and is rewritten with big updates every 6 months. & is old now and sooner or later there wontbe drivers and support for it. You can customize 10 to look like 7 mostley. Its certainley is faster and more supported by everyone
 

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win 8 32 bit
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win 8 32 bit
The major privacy invasion and forced updates keep me from 10 right now. 10 even has a built-in keylogger. It can be turned off supposedly, but that's not the point.

When the time comes I have to run 10 I'm installing a hardware-based firewall and blocking all of M$'s ASNs. Then I'll watch the firewall for in/out traffic and block anything else that's not suppose to be going in/out of my computer. I don't even use updates now as it is unless I need one to fix something. Never been hacked, got malware or any of those scare tactics. If I need an update in 10 I'll download it via my VPN.

They modeled 10 after an asinine smartphone. Well, they are smart alright. Smarter than you with constant analytics, etc. It's a marketer's wet dream come true.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
7 generally works better on some older, Vista-era computers than 10. The invasive privacy issues with 10 are also a turnoff.
Plus with things like the recent patch that was released last month and such that deleted personal files, it doesn't make a good impression on people who're already accustomed to 7 and see no issue with it.

Most things doable in 10 are doable in 7 too.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium x64AMD Athlon 64 X2 7450 @ 2.40Ghz2GB DDR2NVIDIA GeForce 8200 (nForce 730a)
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Packard Bell
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 7450 @ 2.40Ghz
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2GB DDR2
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NVIDIA GeForce 8200 (nForce 730a)
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Western Digital 1TB HDD
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Internet Explorer 11
With win 10, one day you turn on the computer and it begin to install a new version and you can't work for two hours. And it happens more often than anyone could expect.
Then you have the privacy assault. Most of them you can turn off but then most programs don't work.

"The best software is the one you know how to use it"
 

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    Windows 7 HP 64i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000IG - Intel 530
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    custom build
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    Windows 7 HP 64
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    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
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    GA-Z170-HD3P
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    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
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    IG - Intel 530
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    Samsung 226BW
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    1680x1050
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    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
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    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
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    500Mb/s
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    TinyWall firewall
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    Windows 7 Proi7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz(4+4)G DDR3 1600IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
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    Windows 7 Pro
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    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
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    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
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    500 Mb/s
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    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
Thanks everyone for the insights. I'll eventually purchase a Windows 10 computer and keep this all in mind
 

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Windows 7 64-bitIntel Core i5 3570 @ 3.40Ghz16GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @686MhzAMD Radeon 7870
Computer type
PC/Desktop
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Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 3570 @ 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
AsusTek P8Z77-V LK (LGA1155)
Memory
16GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @686Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon 7870
Hard Drives
2TB Hitachi HDS723020BLE640 ATA Device (SATA)
This discussion has been going on for months here. You can find multiple threads on the topic. There are people here that are on both sides of the fence. Some people love 10. Others despise it and won't use it. The best advise I can say is to do some research on the pros and cons and decide for yourself if it is worth it. You might want to check out tenforums. Windows 10 Help Forums
 

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    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    OS
    Windows 7 pro/Windows 10 Pro
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    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
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    8 gb
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    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
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    Alienware 25 AW2521HF & Viewsonic
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    1920 x1080 & 1680x1050
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    WD blue 1 tb & 500 gb.
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    FF of course.
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    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-elite-desktop-intel-core-i7-processor-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/9921493.p?skuId=9921493
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    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell Poweredge T140
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    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
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    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
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    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
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    Viewsonic
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    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 750 GB
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    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
Windows 10 contains spyware and adware. Windows 7 SP1 updated to say 2014-215 doesn't. And the interface doesn't s*ck as much.
 

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Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
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PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Antivirus
No antivirus
Browser
Firefox
You could always use Win 10 in a VM to see if you get on with it and like it!
 

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Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux...Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz4.00 GBIntel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Fujitsu LIFEBOOK
OS
Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz
Motherboard
FUJITSU FJNBB06
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Sound Card
[1] Realtek High Definition Audio [2] Intel(R) Display Audio
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
TOSHIBA MK5076GSX
Antivirus
AVG FREE
With win 10, one day you turn on the computer and it begin to install a new version and you can't work for two hours. And it happens more often than anyone could expect.
Then you have the privacy assault. Most of them you can turn off but then most programs don't work.

"The best software is the one you know how to use it"
2 hours?
You must have been lucky. :D

When I tried to update my W10 Pro VM (from 1703 to 1709) it made multiple failed attempts.
After 12 hours it had filled the entire VHD with broken copies of 1709. :sick:

I restored it to 1703 and blocked it from the Internet.
It has run flawlessly ever since.

In any case I don't need any updates for W10, as my main PCs still run good old rock solid W7.
Note:
I stopped updating my W7 PCs after the Spectre & Meltdown patch fiasco at the start of this year.
 

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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, ...AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2G...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2

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Windows 7/8.1/10 multibootIntel Core i7-770048GB (2x16GB Crucial DDR4-3200 + 2x8GB Hynix ...Intel HD630 + AMD Radeon R7 450 PCIe
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 7050
OS
Windows 7/8.1/10 multiboot
CPU
Intel Core i7-7700
Motherboard
Dell, Intel Q270 chipset
Memory
48GB (2x16GB Crucial DDR4-3200 + 2x8GB Hynix DDR4-2400)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD630 + AMD Radeon R7 450 PCIe
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VC279 (27")
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Toshiba M.2 NVMe (256GB),
Samsung 960 Evo (500GB),
WD Red Plus 80EFBX (8TB)

My Computer My Computer

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Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux...Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz4.00 GBIntel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Fujitsu LIFEBOOK
OS
Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz
Motherboard
FUJITSU FJNBB06
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Sound Card
[1] Realtek High Definition Audio [2] Intel(R) Display Audio
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
TOSHIBA MK5076GSX
Antivirus
AVG FREE
Windows 10 post-1703 is a buggy, horrible mess and MS are only digging it down for themselves.

As for Meltdown/Spectre they greatly would impact the performance of my old AMD, and one of the exploits won't even affect my processor IIRC, so I wouldn't update. Didn't realise it only really affected cloud computing.

Wouldn't surprise me if Intel are putting exploits in on purpose for the NSA either, or wanting to force push W10 later versions...
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium x64AMD Athlon 64 X2 7450 @ 2.40Ghz2GB DDR2NVIDIA GeForce 8200 (nForce 730a)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Packard Bell
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 7450 @ 2.40Ghz
Memory
2GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8200 (nForce 730a)
Hard Drives
Western Digital 1TB HDD
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
I personally have a laptop, a tablet and 2 desktops running Win 10 that are all upgraded to build 1809 (also have Win 10 on a VM for test purposes running Windows Insider build 18277). In addition, I also have a work laptop running Win 10 build 1803. I haven't run Win 7 on any of my machines for several years. I've found Win 10 to be extremely stable (much more so than Win 7 ever was).

I've NEVER had any of my machines disabled by a buggy update causing me to spend hours getting things working again. I had that happen with Win 7 on multiple occasions but never with Win 10.

There is a much trumpeted bug in build 1809 where some users reported that the OS was deleting some of their files, I didn't lose a single file on any of my machines.

There's a new bug being reported regarding legitimate installs being deactivated. I actually encountered that one on one of my machines yesterday. I tried to Activate and it failed. I then clicked on Troubleshoot and got a message that Windows was now Activated. Sum total of time spent "troubleshooting" that bug was about 1 minute. The only symptom I had was a message in the lower right corner of my screen telling me to go to Settings and Activate Windows.

As far as Win 10 sending data to MS servers, it's a non-issue for me since I'm not a paranoid person. MS is collecting millions of records daily from millions of machines running Win 10. Any data collected is pretty much lost within that large dataset to where the data is really only useful to track trends and such for MS. Not sure what else people think MS would/could do with the data.
 

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W10 Pro desktop, W11 laptop, W11 Pro tablet (...3.7Ghz 8700K i7, i7-11800H, i7-1065G716G desktop, 16G laptop, 4G tabletAMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built desktop, Dell G15 5511 Gaming laptop,MS Surface Pro 7 tablet
OS
W10 Pro desktop, W11 laptop, W11 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
CPU
3.7Ghz 8700K i7, i7-11800H, i7-1065G7
Motherboard
ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming in desktop
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16G desktop, 16G laptop, 4G tablet
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AMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
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High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
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Samsung U32J59 32" (2x), 15.6", 12"
Screen Resolution
3840x2160, 3840x2160, 1920x1080, 2160x1440
Hard Drives
500G SSD for OS; 2T, 10T & 15T HDDs for Data on Desktop, 1TB SSD laptop, 128G SSD tablet.
PSU
Corsair CX 750M
Case
Antec 100
Cooling
CM 212+
Keyboard
IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
Mouse
Microsoft Pro IntelliMouse
Internet Speed
400M down 8M up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Built my first computer (8Mhz 8088cpu, 640K RAM, 20MB HDD, 2 360K floppy drives) in 1985 and have been building them for myself, relatives and friends ever since.
I've read that MS has added new telemetry code in W7 Roll-ups (starting in October 2018).
 

My Computer My Computer

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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, ...AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2G...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
Just wondering: Why shouldn't I switch to Windows 10 now? Why is 7 the preferred OS? I'm a newbie to operating systems, and genuinely prefer Windows 7's overall style and feel over Windows 10, but I know Windows 10 is supposed to be faster and overall more smooth than Windows 7. I'm a casual gamer and programmer, so I'd like to hear why others do not upgrade to Windows 10.

:cool:


I'm all very new to this as well. I have been running Linux since 2001, and the last Windows rig I used was Windows-98SE. I have a specific app I need and it won't run under WINE, and I don't have a Mac and have no intention of ever getting one. So that leaves Windows. As for why:


*) Seven runs like a champ on the old Dell Optiplex (originally had XP installed) 32 bit rig I was just given for free. Looks like it's a model from the early Oughts.



*) The Dell has CD read/write capabilities, but doesn't read DVDs, so that meant preparing a USB drive for the install. This is easy to do from Slackware and the install DVD *.iso file. Stop the boot, and select the USB drive and you're good to go: flawless install.


*) Looked into the various iterations of Windows, and Seven got the best reviews. Not sure Ten can even run on my rig, and even if it did, I wouldn't: way too intrusive, tries to do way too much for you so I'd be spending more time arguing with it than getting anything done.


*) It cost way less: less than 25% what Ten would cost.


*) Still has a lot of life left in it, and so why not keep it until the specialized app I need no longer runs on it? If it was the main rig I did everything with, that might be a different story.
 

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Windows-7 Ultimate 32bitIntel Pentium IV HT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex
OS
Windows-7 Ultimate 32bit
CPU
Intel Pentium IV HT
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Palemoon
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