Why Windows Blue heralds the death of the desktop

[x BlueRobot]

You might also have to unlock Secure Boot though, but not to worry, there's already been tutorials written up on this forum for that.

• Secure Boot - Enable or Disable in UEFI
• http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...e-firmware-interface-install-windows-7-a.html

 

[Gary]

You can run The Gimp and as far as Adobe , they are moving towards a cloud application. Most of Europe already is om Linux.

Gimp is a good program by all accounts but there is nothing that can touch InDesign in the open source world. Just cannot get my head round trusting Cloud. Got a few confidentiality agreements in place so not sure how they would stack up

Adobe is not given customers a choice. There will be no more boxed sets of CSX products beginning with the next release.

 

[kbrady1979]

Just think of where Windows 8 would be if Dell didn't buy up 40 million licenses to force on people right off the bat........the uproar over 8 has been bad enough. I'm still hoping they will be inclined to release a Service Pack that will allow a "Desktop" and "Non-Desktop" installation of 8. It's a shame that all of the great features of Windows 8 are overshadowed because of that janky Metro feature and not having a pure desktop feature.

 

[Indianatone]

I was talking in regards to desktop usage of Linux, IE workstations used by employees at a company to crunch spreadsheets and write up paperwork or your at-home PC that your mother might use to calculate taxes or manage her blog.

Server usage of Linux has always been a major player alongside Windows servers and Red Hat is a shining example of it. Sadly though, bringing up the success of server Linux in a topic about desktop Linux is akin to comparing apples to oranges; they're both Linux, but their intended markets and uses are completely different.

King Arthur. That is exactly why I have installed several different Linux versions on a VM and have installed Mint on my PC. I am going to learn it. I do not want to go the path M$ has chosen. Over the years I have spent thousands of $ on software, Operating Systems, Office Suites, Map Programs, Utilities, Games etc. I can use what I have and eventually 2 things will happen. 1 I'll be using Linux and won't care a monkeys or 2 M$ will come to their senses and produce an OS without the playmobile interface and with a desktop akin to Windows 7.

 

[Gary]

Just think of where Windows 8 would be if Dell didn't buy up 40 million licenses to force on people right off the bat........the uproar over 8 has been bad enough. I'm still hoping they will be inclined to release a Service Pack that will allow a "Desktop" and "Non-Desktop" installation of 8. It's a shame that all of the great features of Windows 8 are overshadowed because of that janky Metro feature and not having a pure desktop feature.

I read somewhere today that Dell is for sale.

 

[Britton30]

This "blue" is allegedly a SP for win 8.

 

[Dallas 7]

I read somewhere today that Dell is for sale.

"It's unclear if Silver Lake, Blackstone, or Carl Icahn will buy out the PC maker, but Michael Dell is reportedly saying he'll only support Blackstone if he remains the company's CEO."

Dell CEO said to mull Blackstone buyout only with CEO assurance | Business Tech - CNET News

 

[lehnerus2000]

I'm running Linux in a VM, although, I would prefer to dual boot with Linux since my hardware isn't exactly the best for running a VM with ease, but I'm afraid of the complications between GRUB and the Windows Boot Manager.

Create a backup HDD image, before you start using Macrium Reflect (or something similar).
Remember to create the recovery disc, before you try installing the second OS.

I pre-partition and format my HDD using GParted (so I don't get the System Reserved partition).
Obviously:

• Windows: NTFS
• Linux: ext4

I don't let the Windows installer reformat the partition.

I install the oldest version of Windows first (XP) and then the later versions (W7).
Finally I install Linux.

Using this method, I've never had boot problems related to the installers.
I have had problems caused by my own mistakes (e.g. failing to disconnect secondary HDDs).

A lot of the threads I've seen, where the poster has had problems dual booting, have involved the System Reserved partition.
Note:
I'm not saying that the System Reserved partition is solely responsible (I haven't read every thread related to dual boot problems).

Think that will be the case with many W7 users. Hopefully though it will still be possible to install W7 on new hardware especially that UEFI (or whatever it's called) bios.

It should still be possible to install it in a VM and run it on a Linux host.

Don't forget that (if they are still around) desktop PCs will be a lot more powerful ("Moore's Law" suggests 16x - 32x).

I read somewhere today that Dell is for sale.

"It's unclear if Silver Lake, Blackstone, or Carl Icahn will buy out the PC maker, but Michael Dell is reportedly saying he'll only support Blackstone if he remains the company's CEO."

Dell CEO said to mull Blackstone buyout only with CEO assurance | Business Tech - CNET News

I read an article a few weeks ago suggesting that MS might buy some of Dell.

 

[Golden]

A lot of the threads I've seen, where the poster has had problems dual booting, have involved the System Reserved partition.

That why I recommend removing it if you do not need it - it avoids the Wiondows bootmanager and GRUB interactions:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/257048-dual-boot-windows-7-linux.html

 

[lehnerus2000]

A lot of the threads I've seen, where the poster has had problems dual booting, have involved the System Reserved partition.

That why I recommend removing it if you do not need it - it avoids the Wiondows bootmanager and GRUB interactions:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/257048-dual-boot-windows-7-linux.html

IMO, it's probably better to avoid it in the first place (i.e. prevent it from being created during the install).

 

[Britton30]

A lot of the threads I've seen, where the poster has had problems dual booting, have involved the System Reserved partition.

That why I recommend removing it if you do not need it - it avoids the Wiondows bootmanager and GRUB interactions:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/257048-dual-boot-windows-7-linux.html

I didn't know that Colin, thanks, it will help a friend trying to dual boot.

 

[TanyaC]

I don't use cloud computing, social networking or any of the Windows 8 apps. They are too dumbed down.

With it's single application, cartoonish, flat "windows 95" look and gutted everything, Windows 8's direction reminds me so much of this film...

Idiocracy (2006) - IMDb



Sorry, couldn't resist

 

[mart4494]

Adobe is not given customers a choice. There will be no more boxed sets of CSX products beginning with the next release.

I read about this in an Adobe release note and was not a happy camper. In essence you are perpetually renting the software on a month by month basis. I upgraded from CS5.5 to 6 and (for me anyway) it was a waste of money. So if you always need or want the latest software then renting may be the way to go but for many others it works out far more expensive in the longer term.

Maybe one day there will be an acceptable alternative to InDesign.

 

[Barman58]

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[Indianatone]

Next from Microsoft: 'Blue', the Windows 8 they hope you don't hate ? The Register

More on Blue. From the Register

Some prople are easily pleased. "Quote "So cool" "So Cool" "Cool" " Absolutely Amazing" "I am going to have to use the mouse"

 

[theveterans]

Next from Microsoft: 'Blue', the Windows 8 they hope you don't hate ? The Register

More on Blue. From the Register

Some prople are easily pleased. "Quote "So cool" "So Cool" "Cool" " Absolutely Amazing" "I am going to have to use the mouse"

Windows Blue IMO doesn't improve any user experience on non touch based PCs though I like the little improvements MS did on the metro start.

 

[mart4494]

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[phillipduran]

Yet another prediction of the demise of the desktop.

Brace yourselves, faithful PC enthusiasts. You aren't going to like what I'm about to say. Heck, I don't really like what I'm about to say. In fact, I'm almost terrified to lay out my case in black and white. But that doesn't change the fact that it needs to be said.
There's a very good chance that Microsoft will kill the desktop in Windows 9. No more Task Manager. No more File Explorer. No more legacy compatibility. It'll be 100 percent Live Tiles, 100 percent of the time.
That day is still on the distant horizon, but it is coming. Indeed, if Windows Blue, the just-leaked update to Windows 8, shows us anything, it's that Microsoft is willing to de-emphasize desktop functionality in deference to the modern UI.

PC World

Or perhaps they will just kill themselves.

 

[Alejandro85]

It seems that they want to dig their own grave. Windows 8 is already a disaster in terms of user experience and many don't plan to go beyond Win7, so it's not logical that the next Windows empathizes even more with an user-hostile interface. Of course, for tablets it may be good, but that's a substantially different thing to even compare.

"Killing" the desktop in Windows ¿¿¿9??? is directly closing the doors to half the Windows user base, which have to either stick to XP/7 (which MS tries to avoid) or to migrate to Linux/Mac (which MS tries to avoid). It makes no sense to me. In addition to play games or post in Facebook, people uses computer to work, to get job done and to be productive, and MANY of them don't simply want to battle the metro start menu for using a simple program or open a file, which everyone knows (or knew) how to do.

BTW, who choose the codename "blue"? It must be THE most feared word in Windows
"Welcome to Windows BSOD"

 

[COMPUTIAC]

No matter what M$ decides is best for the future, theirs or ours, makes no difference to me and how I want to operate my type of computer choice.

This choice will be a desktop no matter what the operating system I decide to install on it. I have had PC machines which I have installed Ubuntu on, and as anyone else who has done this will tell you, "The machine is faster and smoother running than ever before". A big plus, so far, there are "No Security Programs" needed for a linux based OS machine.

This results in a lighter amount of resources being used for production rather than protection. Hmmm ! The trade-off sounds better every time I think about it .

M$ can and will do anything they want no matter what "We the Consumer" have to say, this is OK with me, So be It !

I will continue to use the machine of my choice and I will continue to use the "Operating System" of my choice also !

Guaranteed it will not be a M$ product !