Will this fit ?

[Jacobe]

I have an ATI Radion 4350 in this computer: FRYS.com | Hp (it came with it) and I was wondering will this ATI Radion 5770 fit in the case ? Amazon.com: Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card 100283-3L: Electronics

 

[profdlp]

Note: This is the XFX version but that series should all be identical to the ATi reference card.

Dimensions (Imperial) - 8.5 X 4.376 X 1.5
Dimensions (Metric) -17 x 11 x 1.9, 21.6 X 11 X 3.8

From: Graphic Cards - ATI Radeon HD 5000 - ATI Radeon

Too wide. It looks like you'll need slightly more than 2" of space lengthwise than the old one takes up and double the width.

The 4350 from XFX is the following:

Dimensions (Imperial) - 6.6 x 2.73 x 0.75
Dimensions (Metric) - 16.8 x 6.93 x 1.9

From: Graphic Cards - ATI Radeon HD 4000 - ATI Radeon

Fixed, since stormy13 caught a big mistake on my part.

 

[MK2]

Removed post, see post of stormy13 below.

Did not know there was a low profile HD4350 and your pc has only a 220W power supply.

 

[stormy13]

To answer the original question no it won't, that computer is in a slim case and will only take low profile cards. Unless you plan on moving everything to a bigger case, you're stuck with low profile cards only.

HP Pavilion Slimline s5360f Desktop PC Product Specifications HP Pavilion Slimline s5360f Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

Computer CaseSlimline

• Height: 30.2 cm (11.87 inches)
• Width: 10.5 cm (4.1 inches)
• Length: 38.9 cm (15.3 inches)

profdlp you were on the right track, but highlighted the wrong dimension.

P.S. Jacobe you would also need a new power supply as the 250W listed in the specs is nowhere near enough for the 5770, or any other card that requires an extra connection to the power supply. Also means a new case as standard sized ATX power supplies do not fit in slim cases.

 

[profdlp]

Edited my previous post to reflect stormy13's good call.

 

[Jacobe]

ok well do you guys know of any good card to use with this computer

 

[thefabe]

Without replacing your power supply, you probaly have the best one now.
If you were to replace your power supply Sapphire makes a low profile 5770 single slot card. Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100293L Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Low Profile Ready Video Card
Other low profile choices are Newegg.com - low profile vidoeo cards
Fabe

 

[Jacobe]

Well can you give me a good power supply that will fit ?

 

[stormy13]

For a power supply for anything other than the video card that your computer came with, no as the ones that size just don't come powerful enough,

Newegg.com - Computer Hardware,Power Supplies,Power Supplies,TFX12V

 

[thefabe]

This another one of those cases (no pun intended) where an OEM computer manufacturer locks you into only being able to upgrade by buying a new system hopefully from them.
It's a sneaky bad practice in my eyes anyways.

So in order now to upgrade your system your looking at a new GFX card, power supply and case.

1. Inexpensive cases with 500w power supplies 500W Mid-Tower Computer Cases, PC Cases, Custom Computer Cases, Cool Computer Cases at TigerDirect.com

2.Now you can choose from a non low profile card, which XFX makes a single slot 5770 Newegg.com - XFX HD-577X-ZMF3 Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
If your board could handle a dual slot card you could actually get a GTS 450 Fermi for less Newegg.com - EVGA 01G-P3-1452-TR GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) Superclocked 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card 72 hr special ending 9/19 $129.99
So we're looking at $129.99
Case and 500w PSU for $49.99 to $89.99
Plus shipping and tax if applicable.

So in ending somewhere between $180.00 plus tax and shiping to $220.00 plus tax and shipping.

Of course your options going this way open up concederably. I'd keep my eye on sales from Newegg and Tigerdirect for case and power supply combos and, well your still going to have the single slot card limitation.
Just tossing some ideas out their. good luck. Fabe

 

[Jacobe]

so basicly i got ****ed in the ass by frys. Great.

 

[thefabe]

No not by Fry's but by buying an HP system.

As I stated before these OEM system manufacturers make changes to their systems, like in your case a odd dimension power supply that has just enough power to supply that system to using low profile cards that require you to not only to go them for most drivers and some applications. But also replacement hardware.
This is like setting a hook in the mouth of an average user.

It helps them to retain your business by having to rely on them, and if your happy with their system it helps when it comes time for you to you purchase a new system.

One I don't condone especial since once you have broken the seal by opening up the case you have voided your warranty in most cases.

This is why you see so many people that build their own systems. It removes any constraints that may have been put into place by OEM companies. Fabe

 

[neo101]

Just to add - some old Dells and others used to have proprietory PSU wiring! If you tried to replce the standard one you could kill the motherboard and other parts before the PSU exploded!

 

[Jacobe]

ok so i found another one It appears that you dont nned much to run it and its a good card FRYS.com | EVGA
What do you guys think ?

 

[bobkn]

ok so i found another one It appears that you dont nned much to run it and its a good card FRYS.com*|*EVGA
What do you guys think ?

I think that it's not a low profile card.

From an earlier post, you need a low profile card, independent of whether your power supply can support it.

Even if you have no intention of doing business with them, I recommend using the power search tool for video cards at www.newegg.com. There are checkboxes for low profile and low profile ready cards. (I think that the latter come with a normal height bracket installed, but can be switched to low profile. Some of those may take up two slots, if you want to preserve all of the video outputs.)

I can't recommend trying to upgrade a slim PC. Your choices will be limited, and you may not be able to easily upgrade the power supply if it turns out that you need to.

 

[Jacobe]

ok so I foudn this and it needs barely anything to run it.Newegg.com - ZOTAC ION-GPU-A-E ION Graphics Processor 512MB DDR3 PCI Express x1 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
Buy it ?

 

[stormy13]

Don't be fooled by the fancy sounding name on that card, it is as bottom of the barrel as you can get performance-wise. It isn't anything more than a G210 with a fancy name,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600007854&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=48|14-500-127^14-500-127-TS%2C14-500-164^14-500-164-TS

and a step backwards from what you already have,

Geforce G210: Nvidia's first DirectX 10.1 card reviewed - Nvidia, Geforce, G210, GT218, DirectX 10.1, Graphics Card, Benchmark, Review, Test - PC Games Hardware

 

[thefabe]

Don't be fooled by the fancy sounding name on that card, it is as bottom of the barrel as you can get performance-wise. It isn't anything more than a G210 with a fancy name,

Not to mention it uses the PCI-e X1 slot.

Also while trying to find some specs on your motherboard I saw where it says it actually has a 220w power supply and not a 250w.
Power Supply
220W
220w power supply (100v-240)

Sorry to say your pretty much stuck with what you have.
Theirs a lesson to be learned here and not an easy one to swallow, but whenever buying from an OEM and you have thoughts of possibly upgrading in the future make sure you have looked thoroughly at all the specs to see if upgrading is even possible.
Might help others in the future. Fabe

 

[Jacobe]

Don't be fooled by the fancy sounding name on that card, it is as bottom of the barrel as you can get performance-wise. It isn't anything more than a G210 with a fancy name,

Not to mention it uses the PCI-e X1 slot.

Also while trying to find some specs on your motherboard I saw where it says it actually has a 220w power supply and not a 250w.
Power Supply
220W
220w power supply (100v-240)

Sorry to say your pretty much stuck with what you have.
Theirs a lesson to be learned here and not an easy one to swallow, but whenever buying from an OEM and you have thoughts of possibly upgrading in the future make sure you have looked thoroughly at all the specs to see if upgrading is even possible.
Might help others in the future. Fabe

Well I guess its clear then. Next time I buy a new computer I'll make sure I can modify it.

 

[profdlp]

Jacobe, it will add to the expense, but a cheap case and budget power supply won't set you back too much. It's almost certain to be better than what you have now case-wise and a definite improvement over the power supply.

Newegg.com - Computer Hardware,Computer Cases,Computer Cases,Yes,451 - 599W

CAUTION: I wouldn't get the cheapest one made as the power supply is likely to be nowhere near as good as its so-called Wattage listing. YOU MUST make sure the motherboard you have now is the same form-factor as whatever case you buy. (ATX, whatever.) I haven't looked over your current specs as closely as some as the others who have posted here, so waiting for their opinion would be a good idea.

You could throw a better video card in there right now. For down the road, you'd have a "standard" case and could eventually upgrade the motherboard and CPU without having to buy a whole new system, though if your copy of Windows came with the computer you might need to buy a new copy. Obviously, at some point in the upgrade process you might find yourself better off replacing the whole deal to begin with. Don't go into this piecemeal until you have a plan in mind. We can help you with that.

You live and learn, man. A lot of us here are like you and had a few glitches along the way before we figured out what we really wanted and needed. Make enough mistakes and by the time you've got them all sorted out you'll bear the proud title of "Computer Expert".