Will W10 finally see an increasing demise of W7

[jimbo45]

Hi guys

Please don't get angry -- We all agree W7 was (and is) still a very good OS - however W10 HAS made quite a few converts from W7 - especially with FREE upgrade --Do back up your W7 system first though.

I was just wondering if a lot are considering moving to W10 or intend to keep running W7 until no longer practicable.

I'd be interested too if some have come back to W7 after attempting to use W10 (but please only after a serious attempt -- none of this use for 10 mins and don't like it decisions).

I don't wan't to run a poll - would just be interested in people's observations.

I upgraded finally last week -- have been running the insider builds for a while but bit the bullet and upgraded a W7 ultimate system - Free upgrade.

Apart from some initial misgivings when W10 preview was first rolled out I'm really liking it now -- much better than W8 or even W8.1 and I'm not really missing W7 any more.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[unrealRage]

I'll be honest,40 minutes on Windows 10 was fully enough for me to know that I don't like it.All that time I was customizing it and in the process I saw how some things go.Pretty much I don't like new task bar,start menu.I find pointless to have Control panel and Settings.I like when all settings are in one place.I also have that persistent black screen problem after loading Windows 8/8.1/10(5-10 seconds,sometimes more before I can log on).And for me,it feels yet like another tablet operating system.There're many apps that I didn't need but yet I couldn't uninstall them.It will take some time for games to take advantage of Dx12 but honestly,my graphics card can't take advantage of Dx11 so 12 is just a dream.

Currently I am quite satisfied with Windows 7 and it performs nicely on my computer and it's perfect for me.

Also guys this is my opinion,I don't hate Windows 10 I just like Windows 7 more.

 

[Arc]

It is not an instant demise of windows 7 per se, but it is a big step towards it.

Windows 7 is a level, windows 10 is the next level. There is an overlapping area between these two. Some are already shifted to 10, some are in the overlapping area, and some are still with 7.

Gradually the entire population will shift to 10. And as far as I can see, it is a certain event in the near future.

As far as I am concerned, I have upgraded both my desktop and laptop to windows 10 already, because it performs better than the previous versions of windows.

 

[lehnerus2000]

It will probably replace W7.
Eventually, people will eventually get sick of the "get W10" pop-up and just accept it to get rid of it.

I'm not really sure it deserves to replace W7 though:

• Mandatory updates (especially driver updates)
• Ridiculous number of "spyware" settings that have to be changed

It's probably only suitable for running in a VM.
The VM's network can be disabled and then the Host OS' network can be used for the Internet.

 

[strollin]

It will eventually replace Win 7 the way Win 7 replaced XP. There are still lots of diehards using XP, it took a long time before Win 7 surpassed XP.

My desktop is still running Win 7 Ultimate and I see no reason to upgrade it to Win 10. I will keep it as Win 7 until I end up building a new machine, I'll use Win 10 for that.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Most non-geeks will just accept Win 10 as inevitable and I'd expect Win 7's percentage of all Windows installations to have already peaked. It's tough to buy a new machine with 7, although Dell can supply them.

From the standpoint of pure functionality and ease of use, there's not much reason to go with 10. You have to spend X hours retraining yourself and over-coming the foibles of Win 10. In exchange for what other than the extended support window?

But I don't expect the foibles and learning curve to have much affect on the adoption rate for the populace at large.

Win 10 seems to be a deliberately unfinished and unpolished product, by design---to be constantly and continually updated over time, dribbling out changes in accordance with Microsoft's new update model.

I'm going to build with new hardware by year end and I change my mind every day about whether or not to abandon 7. Today, I'm leaning toward staying with 7. I'd just as soon pay $150 for Win 10 in 2018 or 2020 as get it free today.

I'd like to think that after a Service Release or two, Win 10 would be a known quantity, but I fear it will constantly be in a state of significant evolution, with April's ISO being considerably different from January's. I don't know how that will work out over the long term.

 

[ThrashZone]

Here's more if you get bored,
http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/376189-whos-sticking-windows-7-a.html

I might buy 10 after a while but I'm not giving away a 7 license for it.

 

[Mark Phelps]

Unfortunately, it probably will. But, the numbers we're seeing in the media are probably grossly distorted.

Why?

Because MS is probably counting just the number of activation requests and Win10 reservations. Not the number of machines that successfully upgraded to Win10.

I have three Win7 machines and tried updates on two. One failed right out -- refused to update. The other tried but failed at the 24% point and left the machine in an unusable state. I spend nearly an hour on the phone to HP support trying to find a way to restore the laptop to a working state, and they told me they are being swamped with calls from folks in the same situation -- machines trashed from Win10 upgrade failures.

So, no one is reporting how many of the so-called conversions succeeded. Once word starts getting out, there's a strong possibility that the Win10 upgrade could go down in history as another MS "fail" -- possibly even worse than Win8.

I've been in the Insider program since the beginning, so I was really looking forward to upgrading my PCs to Win10 -- but with 2 of the 3 failing, I'm hesitant to even try the third. Oh, and in all three cases, I ran the Equipment Check and in all three cases, it reported no hardware problems and no software problems.

So, at least at my house, Win10 is NOT replacing Win7.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

I probably will be using Win 7 until its EOL. I would lose too many features I consider vital if I upgraded to Win 10.

Win 10 has turned out to be unbelievably snoopy, even worse than Google (which, except for Maps, I never use). While most of the data collection functions can be turned off, some can't and some of those which can will turn themselves back on.

The forced updates is another reason I will not update to Win 10. Even if I were to get Win 10 Pro, I would only be able to delay updates by only up to eight months. MS has become notorious for issuing occasional updates that break a small percentage of users' systems (with the size of MS' user base, even a fraction of a percent can mean thousands, if not tens or hundreds of thousands of systems). With Win 7, I can delay downloading and installing updates for a week to first ensure that none of them are broken. Win 10 Home won't permit that; I would be forced to use Pro to be able to do that. Even with Pro, I would eventually have to accept undesirable programs, such as Skype and Bing, or unnecessary ones, such as (for me) Net Framework.

The worst part of forced updates is, if MS decides to make a GUI change I don't like or an update that permanently breaks software or drivers I use, I would be out of luck. With XP and Win 7, I could expect the basic operation and GUO to remain essentially unchanged for at least ten years from the date they were released. That ended with Win 8. While many hailed Win 8.1 to be a major improvement over Win 8.0, many Win 8.0 users were dismayed by the changes yet had no choice but to eventually accept them or no longer be able to download security updates. I find this new policy of MS to be reprehensible. I pretty much guarantee MS will be making some major GUI changes to Win 10 over its life, including moving toward subscription service, ads that one has to pay a fee to avoid (it's already happened to Solitaire), and cloud computing.

Unless MS changes its present course, Win 7 and Office 2010 will be the last MS products I will ever use.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Oh, and in all three cases, I ran the Equipment Check and in all three cases, it reported no hardware problems and no software problems.

Mark:

Do you have a link to this "Equipment Check"?

 

[ThrashZone]

The really weird cases are
These failures can run the 10tp and have without issues besides the normal bugs...
Then fail to upgrade though the update system and rolling back makes the 7 system not genuine :/
Or just flat out error out saying not compatible

 

[ignatzatsonic]

The forced updates is another reason I will not update to Win 10.

LF:

Microsoft does have a well-hidden troubleshooter package, KB3073930, which allows you to hide or block Windows Updates and, crucially, driver updates.

I have no idea whatsoever if it is wonderful or horrible.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

The forced updates is another reason I will not update to Win 10.

LF:

Microsoft does have a well-hidden troubleshooter package, KB3073930, which allows you to hide or block Windows Updates and, crucially, driver updates.

I have no idea whatsoever if it is wonderful or horrible.

From what I've heard, it's a bit flaky and is limited in operation. It's moot point for me anyway because other issues I have with Win 10 are deal breakers anyway.

 

[sgage]

After using Windows 10 practically daily since last October, I feel like I know its strengths and weaknesses quite well. After updating a separate Windows 8.1 partition (separate license from my Windows 7 installation) to Windows 10 'release', I am dual booting it with 7 - I'm considering turning back on 'receive new builds', but maybe I'll just sit tight. In any case Windows 7 is and will remain my main workplace for the life of this machine.

I haven't found many, if any, advantages to Windows 10 over 7 or 8.1, since I am exclusively a desktop user and have no use for touch features and so on. I see none of the performance increase that some people report. I find most of the new features are 'different' more than they are 'improvements'.

To be honest, the aesthetics of Win10 leave me cold - I greatly prefer the look and feel of Windows 7. Some folks seem to crave change for change's own sake (oh! it looks so fresh and new!). I'm not against change at all, if it's for the better. The UI of Win10 IN MY OPINION is not.

Finally, I have tried, really really tried, to like the Apps and work them into my routine, and while some of them are almost useful, most seem to have one or more fatal flaws for my needs. Granted, they should be more useful in a touch-screen situation, but for a full screen/keyboard guy like myself, they offer me essentially less than nothing - old-school desktop (Win32) apps are an order of magnitude more useful. Knowing they're there behind the desktop, as it were, is actually somewhat irksome - and I know I'm not the only person who feels that way. But I'm sure they will continue to improve (they've come quite a ways already), and I can see how they would work in a touch-screen context.

Anyway, that's my considered opinion at this time. Windows 10 will continue to evolve, MS will take on board user feedback, and who knows how it will shake out. In any case, my next computer will no doubt have Win10 on it, and I know that I can live with it and work with it. I just prefer Windows 7.