Window 7 Pre-BETA Warning

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I have seen this before but in view of the problems with IE at the moment, it is worth re-iterating. I am not sure how accurate the report is, but the claim is that the patch for the latest critical bug in Internet Explorer is not available to W7 pre-beta users? The same claim was also made in a post I saw from Ed Bott, although I've lost that link(??)

"If you have a copy of Windows 7, downloaded from a torrent, it is not the latest build. When Microsoft released the patch for the major security vulnerability of Internet Explorer 8, it was only for the latest Windows 7 build. The current torrent Windows 7 Internet Explorer cannot be updated. If you visit one of the thousands of websites that are affected by the security hole, you will get infected. The only solution is to drop your Windows 7 or use a different browser."

http://webvisiononline.com/blog/index.php/technews/windows-7-users-beware/http://webvisiononline.com/blog/index.php/category/technews/

Norm
 

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the update does download and you can install it even it if it wont download....

only tried it on 6801 as i have recovered from a virus i self initiated...lol
well i was bored.....:p

edit: here's the link

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/960714

havent tried it in 6956
will try it after Christmas if no one has done it yet as i have to get my lappy repaired (a crack on the back vent....) and as this laptop is the only machine in my arsenal currently being able to stomach a vm of windows 7 or vista (i should really upgrade my server...lol)
does not look good...lol
---------------------just a theory----------------------------------------
actually given the info MS gives us you can actually do it yourself ( you have to extract all the files from the update and using the info from the link search for the files and update them with the extracted ones....
just a hunch...
 

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the update does download and you can install it even it if it wont download....

only tried it on 6801 as i have recovered from a virus i self initiated...lol
well i was bored.....:p

Thanks DA, as you could see I was a bit hesitant about it's accuracy. Are you saying it shows up as an Update?

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Thanks DA, as you could see I was a bit hesitant about it's accuracy. Are you saying it shows up as an Update?

Norm


yes it does....
it shows up in the important tab which should be the first tab open...
it should also be updated automatically but as i do a manual meaning i dont download anything i dont need to....

i dont know if it does automatically...lol
 

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Hi All,

If I might just clarify ...

The official builds released (6801) are OK and WU patches fine on auto

It's the unofficial :p releases that may have a problem (69x6)

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Hi All,

If I might just clarify ...

The official builds released (6801) are OK and WU patches fine on auto

It's the unofficial :p releases that may have a problem (69x6)

View attachment 1725

Thanks Nigel, mind you I think there might be a few of them out there. hehe

Norm
 

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Hi All,

If I might just clarify ...

The official builds released (6801) are OK and WU patches fine on auto

It's the unofficial :p releases that may have a problem (69x6)

View attachment 1725

6936 is an official release that came directly from Microsoft to hardware vendors for driver compliance testing. I received it this way. Then *someone I know* sent it to Rafael so he could update blue badge to rev3 so that it would be unlocked. I do believe the person he worked with is the one that released the torrent of it. The patch works fine on 6936.

6956 is the only theft version that the patch does not work on.
 
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"Drop Windows 7, or use a different browser"

Wow that's a hard one... There are far better browsers than IE so I think we know the answer to that.
 

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Just to clarify it again: the patch is available to those using build number 6801; it installed in mine through Windows Update.

















Later :shock: Ted
 

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Just to clarify it again: the patch is available to those using build number 6801; it installed in mine through Windows Update.

Later :shock: Ted

Just a warning though on the patch. Secunia says a fully patched IE7 is STILL vulnerable to the latest exploits.

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but this is IE 8
but you are correct norm..

this critical bug was found in every IE *supported*
meaning all the way back to IE 5 (5.01 i would not be surprised to believe that 4 also has this vulnerability but its not supported hence the emphasis supported...)
as the update says this also applies to

Internet Explorer 5.01 with Service Pack 4 on all supported versions of Windows 2000

this is incredible and the way MS handled this problem is superb...
it came out with a out of cycle patch instead of waiting till patch tues.
 

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love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though
but this is IE 8
but you are correct norm..

this critical bug was found in every IE *supported*
meaning all the way back to IE 5 (5.01 i would not be surprised to believe that 4 also has this vulnerability but its not supported hence the emphasis supported...)
as the update says this also applies to



this is incredible and the way MS handled this problem is superb...
it came out with a out of cycle patch instead of waiting till patch tues.

My point is that the out of cycle patch still leaves you vulnerable!

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yes norm you are right...
thats why most people (in this forum) are/should not use IE..
Firefox has also its bugs but unlike IE it sends them when they are ready, and tested....
the patch will mean that you have to restart your computer...
which means some enterprises will not get this patch until the mega patch tues...

this means most enterprises will be vulnerable to this attack....
(meaning that as of know they should be protected just from this vulnerability ....)


i know this browser is vulnerable i know....
this is why i use FF (sometimes use the nightly builds when im bored....lol)
usually i use IE when i reinstall a system and have no way to access it locally...
 

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wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though
there might be a way (have to be cryptic...lol)

if possible will upload screenshots of the installed update tommorrow...
 
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