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[NoN]

Yep see you might be just fine

I just can't get into all of the live title stuff and will not use a M$ account
Everything thing else is cosmetic for me
All apps list on the start menu makes no sense on a desktop.

Well, i've Windows Phone and this is very practical to me to quickly access to stuff and store some (i know, Clouds...are dangerous! ).
For the Windows Desktop Version as i know about windows 8.1, i've make myself a reason with MS. I'm a big Boy zip now and i'm not fearing too much leaks on my account. I'm not Facebook user nor I'm a Twitter so i'm quite protected from invasive talks and posts. Does MS Offering us free version because he get paid enough by third party following your mouvements arounds?

I Can't see myself taking out for a small ride and fresh air my 48.50lb weighted PC case!

 

[groze]

Yep I personally have given up on the whole idea of the updating process
When a disk is available and the price is right as well as the time I'll be more than willing to give 10 a go
But until then I'm purely a spectator = quite a change after testing iso builds for so long but I can live with that
I'm really hopping the price drops it already did a little on Newegg about 10% but still not enough and I believe it was a download.
Time is on my side only M$ is in a hurry

I gave up the Upgrade path...Rollback

Its definetely a display issue, both drivers for AMD & INTEL Windows 10 that i have tested one by one goes BSOD and the Microsoft generic BasicDisplay.sys won't let me out of black screen (tried hard all suggestions grabbed around, though!).

Tested Safe Mode with Network to load drivers, same same. My monitor refresh rates was set Ok at 1920x1080 (32bit/64Hz) and it was like on reboot no signal on it.

Otherwise Windows 10 have its charm in Safe Mode, and it works flawlessly!!!

By the time its drop on price an entire year will have pass and the free offer won't be there anymore!!

I have to make myself clear on the idea to left Windows 7 for Windows 10, because if i do a Clean Install i do not think i want to go through the hassle to reinstall all on my actual machine.

I'm even afraid to Clean Install now that i know Display drivers BSOD....

What would it be if after i just can't use it!

NoN

You could still try a clean install, once it activates on an upgrade, it should always activate even after the free offer expires.

 

[NoN]

Yep I personally have given up on the whole idea of the updating process
When a disk is available and the price is right as well as the time I'll be more than willing to give 10 a go
But until then I'm purely a spectator = quite a change after testing iso builds for so long but I can live with that
I'm really hopping the price drops it already did a little on Newegg about 10% but still not enough and I believe it was a download.
Time is on my side only M$ is in a hurry

I gave up the Upgrade path...Rollback

Its definetely a display issue, both drivers for AMD & INTEL Windows 10 that i have tested one by one goes BSOD and the Microsoft generic BasicDisplay.sys won't let me out of black screen (tried hard all suggestions grabbed around, though!).

Tested Safe Mode with Network to load drivers, same same. My monitor refresh rates was set Ok at 1920x1080 (32bit/64Hz) and it was like on reboot no signal on it.

Otherwise Windows 10 have its charm in Safe Mode, and it works flawlessly!!!

By the time its drop on price an entire year will have pass and the free offer won't be there anymore!!

I have to make myself clear on the idea to left Windows 7 for Windows 10, because if i do a Clean Install i do not think i want to go through the hassle to reinstall all on my actual machine.

I'm even afraid to Clean Install now that i know Display drivers BSOD....

What would it be if after i just can't use it!

NoN

You could still try a clean install, once it activates on an upgrade, it should always activate even after the free offer expires.

Yeah, i know i can do that...It's just a matter of thinking soundly!

I like my damn Windows7 too!

 

[ThrashZone]

Pretty much why I would rather buy 10 rather than upgrading 7 and will it's just a matter of when not if

 

[Mellon Head]

Right now, users have found Windows 10 still has the keyloggers it had on the insiders preview.
So yeah...

Source?

 

[groze]

Right now, users have found Windows 10 still has the keyloggers it had on the insiders preview.
So yeah...

Source?

Microsoft windows 10 EULA and privacy policy. If you search google news you can find the exact parts people are concerned about.

 

[Monado]

Source?

Like groze said, its on the EULA.
Here's the script that mentions it:

"When you input text, handwrite notes, or link comments, we may collect samples of your input..." "Many features that transmit data to Microsoft are enabled automatically. You will not have the option to turn off the transmission of data for certain features in the Program software and services. To stop the transmission of all data, you must completely uninstall the Program software and services from all of your devices. This may require you to reinstall your device’s operating system."​

You can uninstall the keylogger without having to reinstall W10 though.

 

[Mellon Head]

Like groze said, its on the EULA.
Here's the script that mentions it:

"When you input text, handwrite notes, or link comments, we may collect samples of your input..." "Many features that transmit data to Microsoft are enabled automatically. You will not have the option to turn off the transmission of data for certain features in the Program software and services. To stop the transmission of all data, you must completely uninstall the Program software and services from all of your devices. This may require you to reinstall your device’s operating system."​

You can uninstall the keylogger without having to reinstall W10 though.

Thanks. Appreciate the info.

 

[FerchogtX]

Wait, from what I understand is that if you upgrade a pirated Windows copy, Windows 10 will still not be genuine. Microsoft even said this when they announced the free upgrade.

Even then, I don't think they make it a legit Windows 10. They simply can't. Otherwise pretty much anyone who wants Windows 10 for free would just pirate Win 7 and then upgrade it.

Well... here is the deal, Windows 8.1 users that pirated a copy will be detected as non genuine, because they are activated via KMS, and taking in mind that method is offline and uses "fake" servers, it's easy for Microsoft to invalidate those activations.

Windows 7 by the other hand is a different story, Windows 7 has this OEM system for activation, that only retailers or OEMs could access... well, until someone released the methods for activating. For example, you don't need your COA sticker to reinstall Windows 7 over a laptop that already has a SLIC table in the BIOS, the only thing you need is reinstall, save your certificate (yes a certificate for OEMs so they can validate systems in mass) and a valid OEM serial key, do the appropiate steps, and vuala! Windows 7 activated without going online. Simple huh?

Also, there are loaders that activate Windows 7 emulating this exact behaviour, and guess what, the former I mention and this one activates and makes Windows pass as genuine... yes, genuine, I've seen that, just activate with a loader and go to the validation website from Microsoft, you will not get a non genuine advice never, NEVER. It's like an original OEM system install.

In short, pirates emulated the way OEMs used to activate Windows 7 for their mass production of PCs, therefore the desition from MS of removing that and allowing them only online activations via special servers from them... Windows 8.1 now has a more complicated system with a SLIC 2.2 table, that's why people that pirates it uses KMS activators, but those are, again, easily detected.

For Windows 7, it's another story, yes, in fact, you can always downgrade to Windows 7 if you use 8.1) activate and upgrade to Windows 10, will pass as genuine and activate, that activation will be tied to the motherboard ID info, stored on MS servers, so you can install Windows 10 on that machne as many times as you want. Microsoft desn't have a way to detect this, none, nada, because the "false" SLIC tables are loaded into memory, like a normal OEM system does. It's technically, genuine.

Personally, I'll preffer to buy Windows 10 a year after all this mess, because, if you don't know already, Start Menu and Cortana seems to have issues, and the latest update to fix that results on an endless boot loop. You can see why, this is a massive experiment to see what to change in Windows 10 and what not to. I would suggest returning back the ability to configure Windows Update as you like, we don't even have a week after release, and yet, the first "bugged" patch is doing its job...
Windows 10 Forced Updates Causing Endless Crash Loops - Forbes
Windows 10 Cumulative Update KB3081424 Fails to Install, Stuck in Reboot Loop - Softpedia

In case you wanna fix it:
Windows 10 Cumulative update KB3081424 fails to install, stuck at 30%: How to fix
Here they explain that you can install manually and avoid issues:
Windows 10 Cumulative Update KB3081424 Fails To Install For Some

Yeah, I'm waiting a year, totally worths it...

 

[Monado]

Wow, I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Seems like M$ don goofed.

But yeah, I decided to not upgrade until 2016. Windows 10 is still unfinished.

 

[NoN]

I gave up the Upgrade path...Rollback

Its definetely a display issue, both drivers for AMD & INTEL Windows 10 that i have tested one by one goes BSOD and the Microsoft generic BasicDisplay.sys won't let me out of black screen (tried hard all suggestions grabbed around, though!).

Tested Safe Mode with Network to load drivers, same same. My monitor refresh rates was set Ok at 1920x1080 (32bit/64Hz) and it was like on reboot no signal on it.

Otherwise Windows 10 have its charm in Safe Mode, and it works flawlessly!!!

By the time its drop on price an entire year will have pass and the free offer won't be there anymore!!

I have to make myself clear on the idea to left Windows 7 for Windows 10, because if i do a Clean Install i do not think i want to go through the hassle to reinstall all on my actual machine.

I'm even afraid to Clean Install now that i know Display drivers BSOD....

What would it be if after i just can't use it!

NoN

You could still try a clean install, once it activates on an upgrade, it should always activate even after the free offer expires.

Yeah, i know i can do that...It's just a matter of thinking soundly!

I like my damn Windows7 too!

I collected the CBS.log with while i was with Windows 10 in Safe Mode, doing the System File Checker command.

Trying to understand why those BSOD (didn't colleted dump files because was too obvious):

dGPU without iGPU enabled in bios, i got,
"system_service_exception atikmdag.sys" or "atikmpag.sys"

then tried with the iGPU and dGPU mounted & unmounted from Pc Case, still i got,
"system_service_exception igdkmd64.sys"

There's is a problem with the Pci/pcie bus chipset, either AMD filter or Intel.
From Amd i can understand on my motherboard...but Intel??

There's the compatibility mode in Windows 10 as Intel in their last release notes looks telling that's the way to install their drivers, but does it while upgrading?

CBS.log, appart repairing some winsxs entries didn't saw that much others related.

Damn Black Screen frozen and MS Basic Display driver does not entirely do the trick!!!



A year is plenty of time and drivers will get a fix somehow and testers like us will have the time to think off it (not too hard, please)!

 

[hollyoaks777]

It's absolutely garbage. As I said in a previous post, ever since they left XP. Windows 7 is the only great OS they have done. Why don't they build on that? And the look of it is terrible too. All flat look, it's absolute garbage no wonder it's free. I won't be upgrading as I have already done it. And Microsoft have messed up the Ethernet connection on Windows 7 too. I wouldn't put it past them doing it so you upgrade. Not for me I will wait for a patch.

 

[groze]

Microsoft have messed up the Ethernet connection on Windows 7 too. I wouldn't put it past them doing it so you upgrade. Not for me I will wait for a patch.

How did Microsoft mess up the Ethernet connection on windows 7? I am using both windows 7 & 10. I am using a Ethernet connection.

 

[ThrashZone]

no wonder it's free. .

Nope it's only free if you accept the free upgrade otherwise a single 32 or 64 bit oem download is 140.us

 

[hollyoaks777]

Microsoft have messed up the Ethernet connection on Windows 7 too. I wouldn't put it past them doing it so you upgrade. Not for me I will wait for a patch.

How did Microsoft mess up the Ethernet connection on windows 7? I am using both windows 7 & 10. I am using a Ethernet connection.

I don't know but my Ethernet connection is now treated as a public network with no Internet access! When I installed windows 10 it was treated as a home network and worked fine. Because I hate Windows 10, I done a clean install of Windows 7 pro. and when prompted, told it that it was a home network. Which was fine until I restarted Windows 7 it was treated as a public network again and I don't have any option to change it. I am not the only one with this problem and it can only be Microsoft, as I restarted windows 10 a few times to see if the same happened. It did not, and treated it as a home network. So it's got to be Microsoft that is at fault with their new garbage OS!

 

[ThrashZone]

I don't believe I've run into that one
Home group once 10 entered an existing one is still a home group.

 

[hollyoaks777]

I don't believe I've run into that one
Home group once 10 entered an existing one is still a home group.

 

[ThrashZone]

You might review this if you haven't already
Network Location - Set to Private or Public in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums

 

[groze]

Microsoft have messed up the Ethernet connection on Windows 7 too. I wouldn't put it past them doing it so you upgrade. Not for me I will wait for a patch.

How did Microsoft mess up the Ethernet connection on windows 7? I am using both windows 7 & 10. I am using a Ethernet connection.

I don't know but my Ethernet connection is now treated as a public network with no Internet access! When I installed windows 10 it was treated as a home network and worked fine. Because I hate Windows 10, I done a clean install of Windows 7 pro. and when prompted, told it that it was a home network. Which was fine until I restarted Windows 7 it was treated as a public network again and I don't have any option to change it. I am not the only one with this problem and it can only be Microsoft, as I restarted windows 10 a few times to see if the same happened. It did not, and treated it as a home network. So it's got to be Microsoft that is at fault with their new garbage OS!

I thought setting windows 7 as public network is better than setting as a home network provided you don't use a home network or public wi-fi.

 

[ThrashZone]

Home group is better it has a password that has to be entered.

Wifi is pretty much in the router and it's password