Windows 7 32bit to 64bit

[ursamajor83]

keI have a toshiba satellitle L505d-S5983 with a windows 7 32 bit OS and currently 3GB of Ram(MAX 8GB). I want to do a clea uninstall of the 32 bit and reninstall 64 bit. The OS was OEM so Toshiba is currently only offering a recovery disc ( I am waiting on a callback from escalations at Toshiba.)

I do not wish to use an ISO file. I can use the ei.cfg tool but is my key still only for a 32-bit?

Will I have to buy another key? This seems so stupid: I OWN windows 7. but i can only use one version when retail customers get 32 and 64 bit? This is really sad. Any knowledge and advice would be great.

If my product key only works with a 32 bit system, what do I do? This is ridiculous. Basically, Toshiba sold me a stripped software (pirated, incomplete) and they get away with it.

 

[Zomby88]

You can`t use the tool to get 64 Bit if your recovery is only 32 Bit and why are you calling it pirated ?

You can use your key, but you are going to have to download the 64 bit installer. It`s perfectly legal.

And you don`t uninstall Windows 7 it just gets written over.

If I`m not correct about using the OEM key please set me straight.

 

[alexc648]

you'd have to buy a new licence. buying a pc with windows7 on is different than buying windows 7 off the shelf so its right that you shouldn't be able to use the serial for 64 bit. Seeing as the main benefit is having more RAM by using 64bit and you only use 3 you might aswell not upgrade.

 

[Zomby88]

you'd have to buy a new licence. buying a pc with windows7 on is different than buying windows 7 off the shelf so its right that you shouldn't be able to use the serial for 64 bit. Seeing as the main benefit is having more RAM by using 64bit and you only use 3 you might aswell not upgrade.

Good point, why exactly do you want to switch ???

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

Hello ursamajor83, welcome to Seven Forums!


Have a look through the information in this tutorial at the link below for some additional ideas and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.

Clean Install : Factory COA Activation Key

   Note

Windows 7 / Vista is version specific and not bit-rate specific, i.e. a Home Premium COA Windows activation key will activate either the 32-bit or the 64-bit Windows Home Premium Operating System.

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[alphanumeric]

keI have a toshiba satellitle L505d-S5983 with a windows 7 32 bit OS and currently 3GB of Ram(MAX 8GB). I want to do a clea uninstall of the 32 bit and reninstall 64 bit. The OS was OEM so Toshiba is currently only offering a recovery disc ( I am waiting on a callback from escalations at Toshiba.)

I do not wish to use an ISO file. I can use the ei.cfg tool but is my key still only for a 32-bit?

Will I have to buy another key? This seems so stupid: I OWN windows 7. but i can only use one version when retail customers get 32 and 64 bit? This is really sad. Any knowledge and advice would be great.

If my product key only works with a 32 bit system, what do I do? This is ridiculous. Basically, Toshiba sold me a stripped software (pirated, incomplete) and they get away with it.

The windows 7 product key is good for 32 bit or 64 bit, so you can switch to 64 bit and use the same key. Since your install is a factory OEM install the actual product key used is a master key and will not match the one on your COA sticker. You could install using an off the shelf OEM media and the product code on your sticker, you'll just have to activate by phone. Many people have done it with out problems. Editing you ei.cfg file will not make your 32 bit install media 64 bit install media. If just unlocks all the editions for that version, 32 bit or 64 bit. You get what you pay for, OEM media is less expensive but only comes with the one DVD, 32 bit or 64 bit. The product code is still good for both, but you only get the one DVD. Retail media is quit a bit more expensive and comes with both DVDs, 32 bit and 64 bit, thats just the way it is. What you get with your laptop is recovery media. It's a custom disk set the just restores an image back to your hard drive. That image is the way it left the factory, bloat ware included. It's not pirated, its a custom modified image. All the big OEM's are doing it that way now. If you are resourceful and know what you are doing, you can legally do a clean install, with the correct install media using the product code on the COA sticker on the PC.

 

[theog]

Toshiba come in 32 bit or 64 bit, why do you buy 32 bit?

 

[DeaconFrost]

you'd have to buy a new licence. buying a pc with windows7 on is different than buying windows 7 off the shelf so its right that you shouldn't be able to use the serial for 64 bit. Seeing as the main benefit is having more RAM by using 64bit and you only use 3 you might aswell not upgrade.

All keys work on both platforms...they have since Vista and still do with Windows 7.

But, I agree with the advice that with only 3 GB of memory, there's no great reason to go with x64.

 

[gregrocker]

Reinstalling Windows 7 - How to get a perfect clean reinstall of factory OEM

 

[ursamajor83]

Thank you for the reply Zomby88! Sorry, just got done working!

You can`t use the tool to get 64 Bit if your recovery is only 32 Bit and why are you calling it pirated ?

Not quite sure what you mean by tool. the EFi tool is to enable all versions on a disc so you can choose the one matching your license, I believe. And I don't want to use a recovery disc. I am looking to CLEAN install a 64 bit version of Windows 7.

I made the comment about pirated software in reference to the fact that in pirated OS, often they cannot be verified (or genuine certified) therefore not allowing updates from Microsoft. I realize I do not HAVE pirated software from the OEM: it was a metaphor tinged with loathing.

You can use your key, but you are going to have to download the 64 bit installer. It`s perfectly legal.

This is great news! Where might I find the installer? I spent last night scouring the internet and found lots of useful information on the process of making my own installation discs. Is this what I will need to do? I am still a bit confused by all the options out there and trying to figure this out. That's why I posted the thread. Thanks for the support!

And you don`t uninstall Windows 7 it just gets written over.

Really? Please be specific here because I'm not sure I want to do that. I want to WIPE my HD clean: destroy the partition, start totally from scratch with a clean install. This PC is fairly new (18 months). If I do an overwrite, my partition in my HD would still be there, wouldn't it? :huh:

 

[ursamajor83]

Thank you for the reply, alexc648!

you'd have to buy a new licence. buying a pc with windows7 on is different than buying windows 7 off the shelf so its right that you shouldn't be able to use the serial for 64 bit.Seeing as the main benefit is having more RAM by using 64bit and you only use 3 you might aswell not upgrade.

I am confused. In the first reply, zombie88 thought that the key WOULD activate both 32 and 64. I have heard both stories all over the internet. This is one of the things I'm confused on. Which is it?

Also, which KEY would active both? There is an OEM product indentification key (PID) and then there is also a specific Microsft Key for the Windows 7 Home Premium (I believe this is the COA). My understanding is that this COA key will activate both versions. However, I will probably have to contact Microsoft in order to use MY license. That is really retarded. But I am fine with contacting them. Is my understanding correct? Please let me know.

Seeing as the main benefit is having more RAM by using 64bit and you only use 3 you might aswell not upgrade.

I'm sorry, that is where I should have specified better in my OP. Maxing out the RAM is exactly what my aim is. The cost of the chips is what makes me not want to buy Windows 7 again. (Wow, just think if you had to buy your car over every time you wanted it serviced or updated. Or your home!) Anyway, I am planning on maxing out the PC and using it with Pro Tools in my home recording studio. It works well with Pro Tools (what I mean here is that the program works great, but I can only use about 8-10 tracks right now and the recording projects will need more tracks plus tons of RTAS plug-ins and automation, all RAM consuming factors) but does not have enough RAM (obviously: Avid recommends 4GB, a minimum of 1GB for my version.) So, yea, the more powerful RAM is what I am after.


Again, thank you, folks, for all your help so far!

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

Hello ursamajor83, welcome to Seven Forums!


Have a look through the information in this tutorial at the link below for some additional ideas and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.

Clean Install : Factory COA Activation Key

   Note

Windows 7 / Vista is version specific and not bit-rate specific, i.e. a Home Premium COA Windows activation key will activate either the 32-bit or the 64-bit Windows Home Premium Operating System.

​

The information in this tutorial linked above will explain everything to you, have you had a look?

 

[ursamajor83]

The windows 7 product key is good for 32 bit or 64 bit, so you can switch to 64 bit and use the same key. Since your install is a factory OEM install the actual product key used is a master key and will not match the one on your COA sticker. You could install using an off the shelf OEM media and the product code on your sticker, you'll just have to activate by phone. Many people have done it with out problems. Editing you ei.cfg file will not make your 32 bit install media 64 bit install media. If just unlocks all the editions for that version, 32 bit or 64 bit. You get what you pay for, OEM media is less expensive but only comes with the one DVD, 32 bit or 64 bit. The product code is still good for both, but you only get the one DVD. Retail media is quit a bit more expensive and comes with both DVDs, 32 bit and 64 bit, thats just the way it is. What you get with your laptop is recovery media. It's a custom disk set the just restores an image back to your hard drive. That image is the way it left the factory, bloat ware included. It's not pirated, its a custom modified image. All the big OEM's are doing it that way now. If you are resourceful and know what you are doing, you can legally do a clean install, with the correct install media using the product code on the COA sticker on the PC.

Thank you very much, sir!

 

[ursamajor83]

Toshiba come in 32 bit or 64 bit, why do you buy 32 bit?

That's what I am asking myself now.:shock:

 

[ursamajor83]

Reinstalling Windows 7 - How to get a perfect clean reinstall of factory OEM

Sweet, thank you, man. But if this is OEM, won't it still have bloatware? I wanna get rid of EVERYTHING that came OEM, hence the clean install (I mean, I wanna wipe the disc, and NOT have OEM.

 

[ursamajor83]

Hello ursamajor83, welcome to Seven Forums!


Have a look through the information in this tutorial at the link below for some additional ideas and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.

Clean Install : Factory COA Activation Key

   Note

Windows 7 / Vista is version specific and not bit-rate specific, i.e. a Home Premium COA Windows activation key will activate either the 32-bit or the 64-bit Windows Home Premium Operating System.

​

The information in this tutorial linked above will explain everything to you, have you had a look?

Thank you very much for having me! Really digging your guys site! The people are friendly, respectful and helpful as well. Thanks for the support, everyone.

Thank you barefootkid, I'll check out this info.

I may be a little dense, so please forgive me: what I'm kind of getting is that I'm going to have to renistall an OEM version. Is that right? Is there no way I can get a retail ISO download or anything? If so, will my key still activate it or would I have to buy a retail key? I'm still really confused here and its probably my fault: I'm probably not stating myself clear enough.

I want to wipe my HD (including destroying the partition, everything.)

Then wanna install windows 7 home premium 64 bit (non-factory <minus bloatware>).

My activation key(s): are they only for an OEM version? Would I then have to purchase a key for a clean (minus OEM crap) version of Windows (what I'm taking to mean retail version)?

I don't care how I'd have to do it: if I need to download an ISO file and build a install disc, that's fine. Just wanted to know how this may be accomplished.

I apologize if this answer has already been given and I simply didn't understand it. Feel free to hit me upside the head with it again. ADD sucks!

UPDATE!!!!

So, after looking through the posts again, I opened the links people provided and see the solutions, mostly making an install disc. These will be retail similar install discs (meaning no bloatware)?

And this will also install all the drivers to run the program? I will just need to update once installed?

Thanks again!

I don't have an ISO: can I download one? can i use the anytime app or no?

 

[gregrocker]

You can find "Official Win7 ISO downloads" on the web, unlock all versions if needed, to clean reinstall with Product Key on COA sticker. Retail installer and OEM installer are the same.

Here are tips to get a perfect reinstall of factory OEM: Reinstalling Windows 7

 

[alphanumeric]

The term OEM gets used a lot and can cause some confusion. Basically there are OEM and Retail versions of windows 7. The OEM version of windows 7 that comes pre-installed on your OEM PC, comes with some manufacturer installed bloatware. If you use the restore disks to re-image your OS you get all the bloatware back. If you buy an OEM version of windows 7 on line, its just the windows 7 install media, no bloatware. Its what the OEM manufacturer started with before adding all the junk. The restore media also has all the required drivers pre loaded, you won't get that with the off the shelf OEM version. You may have to download and install some drivers yourself to get all your hardware working correctly.
The Product ID: displayed on the system page is not the Product Code used to activate Windows 7. In your case you want to use the code on the COA sticker.