Windows 7 and mail

Howard Kaikow

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Tonight, I realized that I have not been paying attention.

I saw an item in a newspaper that indicated that Windows 7 does not include an email program.

Are there advantages to using Windows Live Essentials rather than, say, Thunderbird, or some other 3rd party email program?

Disadvantages?
 

My Computer

OS
Vista
I use Thunderbird. But Windows Live Mail is alright too.

Windows Live Mail will probably be the best choice if you're going to use it with a Windows Live account.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Too many to list.
OS
XP, Seven, 2008R2
CPU
AMD, Intel, VIA
Motherboard
Various
Memory
Corsair, Kingston, etc.
Graphics Card(s)
ATI, NVIDIA
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
Maxtor, Western Digital
Keyboard
qwerty
Internet Speed
22 Mb/s @ home, 1 Gb/s @ server
Other Info
All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
It's up to you.
I prefer more Windows Live Mail than eg. Thunderbird or other email client.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32 SP1
CPU
x2 2.6 GHz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
A-Data 2GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
ATI X1250
Sound Card
SB 5.1 Live!
Hard Drives
WD and Seagate FAP
PSU
Tagan TG-480-U01
Keyboard
BTC 6300
Mouse
Logitech VX Nano
Antivirus
None
Me? I just use Gmail to collect all the mail from my other accounts, including Live. One inbox with each account given its own label. I no longer have to backup or restore my mail when I do every ~30 day re-installations. One less application for me to install. This is also why I now use Meebo.com for my IM client.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
Cooling
Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
Keyboard
Logitech G710+ Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
Other Info
Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
I put Windows Live Mail on my wife's machine because it was moving from XP (Outlook Express) and I wanted a program that would (1) transfer her accounts and settings; (2) look somewhat like OE; and (3) have a good junk mail filter.

When I put Windows Live Mail on her XP system, it automagically transferred OE over - everything but the account passwords. I then saved it to offline storage (via KLS Mail Backup - Freeware Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird, Firefox backup) and upgraded her system to Windows 7 RC. I put Windows Live Mail on it, let it set up, and then did a restore of the saved Windows Live Mail folders. Taa da! Re-insert the passwords and go.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway, Toshiba Laptop, and Home Brew
OS
Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult
CPU
Intel I3, Cerelon, Pentium 4 @ 3Ghz
Motherboard
Intel, Intel, Asus
Memory
8G, 3G, 3G
Graphics Card(s)
On-board Intel, On-board nVidia, nVIDIA card
Sound Card
on-board, on-board, SoundBlaster
Monitor(s) Displays
Hannspree HF237, Toshiba, SyncMaster 931B
Screen Resolution
default (all)
Hard Drives
1T internal, 320G internal, 160G internal, 1T networked
PSU
300w, unk, 650w
Case
black, black, grey
Cooling
air (all)
Keyboard
standard wired (all)
Mouse
standard wired (all)
Internet Speed
6M down, 768K up
Other Info
Home LAN through Linksys hub to 4 port and wireless switch/router. Networked HP 2600n. Wife's computer running Windows 7, and spare laptop running Ubuntu "Karmic Kola" (9.10).
According to the thing I read, Windows 7 does not have Windows Mail.
 

My Computer

OS
Vista
You are right, windows does not come with an email client. The above mentioned software is all thrid party software what other users have suggested for you as an alternative. Windows live mail seems to be the first choice for most users. However you can also install windows mail which was part of vista if you have access to the files needed. More information on this can be found in the tutorials here..... How to Reinstate Windows Mail on Windows 7
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom - PC Specialist
OS
Windows 7/Linux
CPU
Athlon 64 x2 6000+
Motherboard
ASUS M3N78 PRO
Memory
4Gb Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce 8400
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ G2222HDL
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1Gb Spinpoint F3/740Gb Western Digital
640Gb Western Digital
PSU
National Grid
Case
Yes
Cooling
Stock Cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Eclipse II
Mouse
Microsoft Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
50Mb
Personally I prefer Live Mail over Mail, mainly because I use RSS feeds and newsgroups.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self built
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Intel E8400 3GHz
Motherboard
Intel DX48BT2
Memory
Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd.
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DG
Monitor(s) Displays
2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 on two monitors
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
Seagate Momentus XT 500gb
Samsung F3 1Tb (games)
2x Samsung F1 1Tb
PSU
Thermaltake ToughPower 850w
Case
Thermaltake Armor
Cooling
Scythe Mugen II
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve USB
Mouse
Razer Diamondback 3G
Internet Speed
8128/443
Personally I prefer Live Mail over Mail, mainly because I use RSS feeds and newsgroups.

Yes I also use Windows Live Mail but I don't use it for RSS feeds - why? It's simple did you noticed after start WLM your CPU usage (in my case it was ~50% CPU time, during few minutes after start WLM).

For RSS feeds I use another handy software FeedDeamon.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32 SP1
CPU
x2 2.6 GHz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
A-Data 2GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
ATI X1250
Sound Card
SB 5.1 Live!
Hard Drives
WD and Seagate FAP
PSU
Tagan TG-480-U01
Keyboard
BTC 6300
Mouse
Logitech VX Nano
Antivirus
None
yes of course the cpu usage would go up because its updating your rss feeds!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self built
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Intel E8400 3GHz
Motherboard
Intel DX48BT2
Memory
Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd.
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DG
Monitor(s) Displays
2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 on two monitors
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
Seagate Momentus XT 500gb
Samsung F3 1Tb (games)
2x Samsung F1 1Tb
PSU
Thermaltake ToughPower 850w
Case
Thermaltake Armor
Cooling
Scythe Mugen II
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve USB
Mouse
Razer Diamondback 3G
Internet Speed
8128/443
yes of course the cpu usage would go up because its updating your rss feeds!

Yes you are right, but it's too high in my opinion, that's why I chose FeedDeamon.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32 SP1
CPU
x2 2.6 GHz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
A-Data 2GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
ATI X1250
Sound Card
SB 5.1 Live!
Hard Drives
WD and Seagate FAP
PSU
Tagan TG-480-U01
Keyboard
BTC 6300
Mouse
Logitech VX Nano
Antivirus
None
I find people who are afraid to use there computers silly.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
Cooling
Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
Keyboard
Logitech G710+ Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
Other Info
Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
Guess I'll use Thunderbird, otherwise I would have to convert all the mail filters to another program, a very time consuming operation.

With Thunderbird, I could use the same mail program for Win 2000, Win XP, Vista, and Win 7, not to mention Ubuntu.
 

My Computer

OS
Vista
According to the thing I read, Windows 7 does not have Windows Mail.

Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail are actually two different products. Windows Mail was ithe successor to Outlook Express and was ncluded natively with Windows Vista. Windows Live Mail is the new successor to both, and is part of the Windows Live suite of products that is not installed by default in any version of Windows. Windows Live products must be downloaded and installed.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
CPU
3.00 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo E8400
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5K/EPU Rev 1.xx
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon X1950 Pro
Sound Card
Built in HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
22" Gateway LCD
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
ST3160023A [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 0, rev 8.01, ST3500630AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 2, rev 3.AAK
ST3500630AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 1, rev 3.AAK
Keyboard
Logitech G11
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000
Internet Speed
13.44 Mbps
You are right, windows does not come with an email client. The above mentioned software is all thrid party software what other users have suggested for you as an alternative. Windows live mail seems to be the first choice for most users. However you can also install windows mail which was part of vista if you have access to the files needed. More information on this can be found in the tutorials here..... How to Reinstate Windows Mail on Windows 7
WTF What possessed them not to include Windows Mail? Is there some logic to it? :confused:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DELLXPS 8300
OS
WIN7 x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5-2400 processor(6MB Cache, 3.1GHz)
Memory
8 GB RAM
Hard Drives
1.5TB C Drive
WTF What possessed them not to include Windows Mail? Is there some logic to it? :confused:
It is easier to update and maintain a separated package (Windows Live Mail) then an integrated package. Plus not ever one requires an email client, like me.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
Cooling
Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
Keyboard
Logitech G710+ Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
Other Info
Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
I Added the take ownership to the context menu. right clicked on both windows mail folders in x64 /PROGRAM FILES and PROGRAM FILES X86 took ownership of both. deleted everything in both folders, managed to download the winmail for x64 vista copied the contents into both folders, I clicked on the program files without the x86, and opened winmail and it worked. no hazzle
 

My Computer

OS
windows 7
CPU
Quad 2.66
Motherboard
xfx 680i
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
Sli xfx 2X nvidia 8500 1gb
Sound Card
Real Teck HD
Hard Drives
3
PSU
850w
You are right, windows does not come with an email client. The above mentioned software is all thrid party software what other users have suggested for you as an alternative. Windows live mail seems to be the first choice for most users. However you can also install windows mail which was part of vista if you have access to the files needed. More information on this can be found in the tutorials here..... How to Reinstate Windows Mail on Windows 7
WTF What possessed them not to include Windows Mail? Is there some logic to it? :confused:

I expect that MSFT really wants folkes to use Outlook.

I think that the cost of converting filters from Thunderbird to another progra mjust is not worth the cost.

In addition, I do not want to be at the mercy of MSFT's whims when they change email clients this way.
 

My Computer

OS
Vista
I use Live Mail, but only because it is the easiest to use with my hotmail account. I think if I had any other email provider I would use thunderbird, but WLM is easy to use.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Advent 4213
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (x86)
CPU
Intel Atom 1.6 GHz
Memory
1GB
Screen Resolution
1024x600
Hard Drives
160GB
Mouse
A cheap one made by a company called 'sumvision'
Internet Speed
Speed test says about 6mb
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